zxy26 发表于 2018-9-21 13:41
ff系列如果选唯一一个那肯定是克劳德，就算只有kh里在任天堂机器里登场，但是就知名度来说超出其他人太多。 ...
我第一次聽說最終幻想的角色就是克勞德，第一代的主角是誰我還不知道…
說來也搞笑，7代正是SE攜帶這個遊戲“叛變”時期的第一個遊戲，這個“反骨仔”版本的角色卻登陸大亂鬥…
佐倉綾音. 发表于 2018-9-21 13:46
那個勇者斗惡龍毫無參戰跡象，好像也沒怎麼看到有請願的聲音
上面说了，DQ最大的问题是缺一个代表人物，以及欧美人气堪忧
除非你选史莱姆......
苍蓝之枪 发表于 2018-9-21 13:51
上面说了，DQ最大的问题是缺一个代表人物，以及欧美人气堪忧
除非你选史莱姆...... ...
果然大亂鬥參戰優先看歐美人氣啊…
https://smashboards.com/threads/ ... -brainstorm.450770/
NF17 发表于 2018-9-21 13:58
https://smashboards.com/threads/ ... -brainstorm.450770/
不说还以为卡卡罗特参战…
佐倉綾音. 发表于 2018-9-21 14:00
不说还以为卡卡罗特参战…
这位在游戏的地位不比龙珠低
佐倉綾音. 发表于 2018-9-21 13:53
果然大亂鬥參戰優先看歐美人氣啊…
只看日本，DQ也是挑不出史莱姆以外的代表性角色
最终幻想除了7，大家闭眼都能选雷霆
DQ上也只能让最新作11的主角，等Switch版发售吧
苍蓝之枪 发表于 2018-9-21 13:51
上面说了，DQ最大的问题是缺一个代表人物，以及欧美人气堪忧
除非你选史莱姆...... ...
罗德或者特瑞都有代表性，不过还是史莱姆最合适
造化，造化虽然我平时买实体卡带，玩单机游戏为主，这次难得大乱斗想网上对战，偏偏…
之前不是说很多人看到云妹第一反应是"大乱斗里出来过的角色"根本不知道什么狒狒7么
sora参战的可能性突然提升很多啊
4chan有個肯參戰的圖，感覺野加大了不少肯參戰的幾率，但是對這個角色參戰我不怎麼期待就是…
佐倉綾音. 发表于 2018-9-22 10:32
4chan有個肯參戰的圖，感覺野加大了不少肯參戰的幾率，但是對這個角色參戰我不怎麼期待就是… ...
这个期间假图满天飞，看看就好.....
一张图根本说明不了问题，视频都有作假的.......
苍蓝之枪 发表于 2018-9-22 10:34
这个期间假图满天飞，看看就好.....
一张图根本说明不了问题，视频都有作假的....... ...
好像做成一個視頻，圖片是視頻截圖的，視頻的話，看過一個羅賓的參戰視頻，做得還挺不錯的話
猫鹰哥主播的预想图，推特上有个玩法，假设大乱斗最后还剩10个空位你会希望谁能上榜，于是猫鹰哥就做了这个……还外加一个第11号22333333，今天他还放了个新图是最先希望看到的四个角色
转发的微博
应该是可能性最大的四个吧。
我觉得比较喜闻乐见的都在3这档
佐倉綾音. 发表于 2018-9-23 12:35
猫鹰哥主播的预想图，推特上有个玩法，假设大乱斗最后还剩10个空位你会希望谁能上榜，于是猫鹰哥就做了这 ...
多大仇
佐倉綾音. 发表于 2018-9-23 12:35
猫鹰哥主播的预想图，推特上有个玩法，假设大乱斗最后还剩10个空位你会希望谁能上榜，于是猫鹰哥就做了这 ...
不是十个空位，是将十分分配到你想要出战的角色上，不同角色分值不同。瓦路易要11分所以不可能出战
在wiki上发现个有意思的东西
SSB4每个新参都会请画师画一幅艺术图，放在官网人物页面最中间
而SP公布了这么多角色，并没有艺术图，大部分人都以为这个传统取消了
但是wiki上居然发现了这么张图，并且标注的是官图，只不过没有在官网上放出.......而是通过其他渠道公布的......
如果不是wiki搞错了的话，那么是不是可以推测其他人也有，只不过没有公布呢？
苍蓝之枪 发表于 2018-9-24 21:06
在wiki上发现个有意思的东西
SSB4每个新参都会请画师画一幅艺术图，放在官网人物页面最中间
绝了，这比全员参战的那张好看十倍啊
—— 来自 OnePlus ONEPLUS A3000, Android 9上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.0.3
SmterC 发表于 2018-9-24 21:52
绝了，这比全员参战的那张好看十倍啊
—— 来自 OnePlus ONEPLUS A3000, Android 9上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2. ...
艺术图不会收录全员，看画师心情选人.....
通常要符合C位参战人员本身的主题，比如这张图就是明显的splatoon风格
不过splatoon即是作为参战艺术图，又是整个游戏宣布制作的第一张，看样子是挑了最重要的几个人......
就是后面几个新参角色到底是藏着不公布还是根本没艺术图了......
另外关于那张全员参战图，不知道是画师粗心了，还是我太敏感了......
我觉得那张图里有一些“不该出现的东西”
解释一下，就是指和人物本身在游戏中的技能和各种动作全都无关的东西
有三个，
先说前两个，DK握住的藤蔓，村民用捕虫网抓的蝴蝶，都是实际技能中不会出现的东西，不过这毕竟是小细节，可能是为了构图合理性追加的......（马医生的听诊器在招数动作里虽然没有出现，但是胜利特写动画中有）
然后问题来了，第三个东西，可以看到左下角皮克敏和奥利玛的左边， 有个一个土星先生，什么鬼.......这不是参战角色，而是道具啊......
你非要解释的话，碧奇的下B拔萝卜有非常低的概率会拔出土星先生........但是这土星先生也没画在碧奇手上啊......画师加私货了？
肯比隆帅多了，当然街霸如果还加第二个非复制人的话，古烈可以入
苍蓝之枪 发表于 2018-9-24 21:06
在wiki上发现个有意思的东西
SSB4每个新参都会请画师画一幅艺术图，放在官网人物页面最中间
因为这张艺术图不是大乱斗官方发的，而是splatoon官方发的。。。
inside预测的剩下的（非克隆的）全新角色是
狙射树枭/炽焰咆哮虎 取其一，基诺，头巾迪，骷髅小子，罗宾
基本和我的想法一致，看到最后能中几个吧
苍蓝之枪 发表于 2018-9-25 13:48
inside预测的剩下的（非克隆的）全新角色是
狙射树枭/炽焰咆哮虎 取其一，基诺，头巾迪，骷髅小子，罗宾
基 ...
班卓熊看来无望了，但是前几天那个sora参战的传言…
佐倉綾音. 发表于 2018-9-25 13:55
班卓熊看来无望了，但是前几天那个sora参战的传言…
无论如何本家永远比第三方容易上，第三方一个是知名度，一个还要考虑版权好不好谈.......从这点上看基诺最容易摆平是肯定的，不过之前一直传闻的是SBGI有个新人，现在也没风声了......
苍蓝之枪 发表于 2018-9-25 14:22
无论如何本家永远比第三方容易上，第三方一个是知名度，一个还要考虑版权好不好谈.......从这点上看基诺 ...
其实只要有ARMS参战我就没意见了
第一方的自家格斗IP，主要是可以节省我买AMRS的钱啊，哈哈哈………（开个玩笑）
但愿DLC了
4chan的流言
The original smash direct that was slated for October 6th 2018, has been moved to October 16th 2018. I have a variety of sources, on the same lines of vergeben, some as the exact same source; so you can take it as fake or as fact. But here's what I've gathered so far
The characters as of 9/20/18 has been completely set in stone.
There are talks of day 1 dlc, and other dlc characters but is currently unknown.
Here's what I've uncovered.
If you wanna skip over anything extra and just want the new info:
New Fighters:
Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)
Incineroar (Pokemon) -
Skull Kid (Legend of Zelda)
Elma (Xenoblade)
Isaac (Golden Sun)
Geno (Mario RPG)
Shadow the Hedgehog (Sonic) **NOT AN ECHO FIGHTER**
Banjo Kazooie (Banjo Kazooie)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts) -
Saki (Sin & Punishment)
Klaus (Mother)
New Echo Fighters:
Medusa over Palutena
Ken over Ryu
Octoling over Inkling
Dixie Kong over Diddy Kong
Black Shadow over Captain Falcon
Black Knight over Ike
This was a massive load of new information and I'm extremely excited to share more to you guys. I mainly know what will be happening in the next direct and presentation. Further on, I know what to be revealed but not in any particular order.
In the upcoming direct, they reveal 4 new fighters, 2 new echo fighters, 2 new stages, 5 brand new assist trophies + 2 Pokemon, 4 brand new items new to smash in-game shop concept + new value of currency, buyable costumes and palettes, and a teaser for spirits.
It'll open with Shulk, Link, and Marth fighting Rathalos in a cinematic cutscene link and marth get destroyed, and shulk was barely holding on until Elma shows up. Midway it transitions to Elma getting beat up, similar to how richter was revealed; isaac comes in and lends a hand before transitioning into his very own gameplay sequence. It also showcases a transitioning stage where it seems to be golden sun based, unsure whether it is Mars Lighthouse or another stage. Sakurai comes in and talks about the 2 new characters and their inclusion into smash brothers, and showcases some brand new assist trophies and 2 new pokemon;
-Drampa (Pokemon)
-Chandelure ( Pokemon)
-Saturos (Golden Sun) Two Volcanoes Appear and it rains exploding meteors for a short period of time.
-King Boo (Mario) Swaps percentages around between fighters.
-Poochy (Yoshi) Digs underground and finds useful items, similar to how isablle used to be
-Urbosa (Legend of Zelda BOTW) Hovers around you, when hit while blocking they're now stunned with a large lightning bolt.
-Creeper (Minecraft) If within range walks up and kamikaze's if you walk out of range before hand, it'll stay and continue to attempt to follow you.
Afterwards they show off 2 more additional items:
-Minecraft Pickaxe; Digs Enemies into Floor
-Royal Badge; Temporarily stronger, but for duration takes 1% per second
Afterwards they talk about music tracks, and an official album to buy, with an mp3 download available.
After Sakurai shows off 2 of the new echo fighters;
Ken over Ryu; who has more firey and orange particle effects and has a bit more gusto,
and Medusa over Palutena, sassier and has dark particle effects.
Afterwards it plays a highlight of all the new characters before, the screen visually cracks and the line "you better have not forgotten about me"
Shadow the hedgehog shows up, with his splash screen and quick gameplay is shown confirming he isn't an echo fighter.
Afterwards Sakurai explains how some characters; young link, dr.mario, isabelle, and shadow the hedgehog are more unique fighters despite having some very similar attributes to them. Makes a comparison to how many characters can counter. The in game shop is also what is located on the right side bar, where it was originally blurred out, and will have sections for in game store and dlc.
Afterwards, Sakurai shows us a lot of new "characters"
We see BOTW Zelda, Digby from Animal Crossing, Ms.Pac Man, and Ninten.
Sakurai introduces the smash community to costumes, and how to earn them. He strictly mentions how some characters that could've been echoes simply did not have enough different with them to earn their own place as an individual fighter, and also that certain forms of characters may be preferred over others. To earn them will require a large quantity of coins. Some costumes are very subtle, or different pallette swaps, and others are full on costumes. Some of the other costumes include: Clay Kirby, King Mario, Boxer Donkey Kong, and some new Inkling Haircuts we haven't seen before. After Sakurai thanks everyone for watching the presentation, and then it cuts to another extended version of King K Rool's Intro, but shows it as a reflection of the New Pork City, as they fight Pocky. But Looming over is a shadowy armored figure,as he jumps and appears before them. Claus appears and a remixed mother 3 theme is present. It ends with Pocky Blown up and Claus turning around to look at Lucas.
本帖最后由 佐倉綾音. 于 2018-9-26 09:05 编辑
划重点:
独立角色:
New Fighters:
Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)
Incineroar (Pokemon) -
Skull Kid (Legend of Zelda)
Elma (Xenoblade)
Isaac (Golden Sun)
Geno (Mario RPG)
Shadow the Hedgehog (Sonic) **NOT AN ECHO FIGHTER**
Banjo Kazooie (Banjo Kazooie)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts) -
Saki (Sin & Punishment)
Klaus (Mother)
回声角色:
New Echo Fighters:
Medusa over Palutena
Ken over Ryu
Octoling over Inkling
Dixie Kong over Diddy Kong
Black Shadow over Captain Falcon
Black Knight over Ike
名单好像太多了…
Vergeben自称弄到到全角色名单，但是怕流出，情报源会让任天堂给…
总之越来越期待了
太扯了，克劳斯都能拖出来，mother3最近有重置的风声？
还有我就话放这里了，母猴子要么不出，要出至少半克隆，上B和普B明显是不能套DD的
苍蓝之枪 发表于 2018-9-26 10:09
太扯了，克劳斯都能拖出来，mother3最近有重置的风声？
还有我就话放这里了，母猴子要么不出，要出至少半克 ...
基本上就是将奶最多的都拖上来，自己又添加了一些私货了
这名单过于完美。反而不可信
12月发售，不知道是11月来一次ND还是十月十一月每月一次？