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【流言蜚语】08-09赛季欧洲五大联赛始动

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-22 14:13 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 krit 于 2007-8-22 17:51 发表
Heinze said last night: \"My fight is for the freedom to negotiate with any club. United never wanted me to leave for one of the big clubs, but this anti-Liverpool clause is incredible.\"

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想听听大家对这件事情的看法...
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发表于 2007-8-22 14:50 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 张囧莔 于 2007-8-22 14:03 发表

一夏天老科看上了很多腰但一个都没来,马杜罗我看希望也不大,联赛马上就开打了,至少这个夏天也给我来一个1000万以上身价的人来啊,看意思我们铁了心还要一个边锋,罗西纳真的操作的话应该不会超过2000万,当然来的希望也很渺 ...

腰来了一个哈布勒,不过太小还得养,还有一个诺切里诺已经到手了又飞了,现在传闻中还有腰,说明老科还是要买的
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发表于 2007-8-22 15:01 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 krit 于 2007-8-22 14:13 发表

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想听听大家对这件事情的看法...

我没看明白你想说明什么- -

既然英超认为那份协议只对国外俱乐部有用的话~那海因策也没办法~毕竟他和MU还是有合同的~

实在想去利物浦的话~可以学加拉一样~闹~
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发表于 2007-8-22 15:22 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 卡修 于 2007-8-22 15:16 发表
http://sports.tom.com/2007-08-22/03OE/24345925.html
TOM体育讯 这个夏天,对于阿根廷国脚海因策来说颇有些塞翁失马、焉知非福的幸运,在试图转会利物浦屡遭俱乐部阻拦之后,曼联在今天终于同意放行,然而目的地却变成了西 ...

12m欧?赚了……
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发表于 2007-8-22 16:05 | 显示全部楼层
MU会不会拿这1200万欧补个前锋?
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发表于 2007-8-22 16:10 | 显示全部楼层
12m再加点吧阿内尔卡弄进来吧
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发表于 2007-8-22 16:12 | 显示全部楼层
我联现在的问题貌似不是买个前锋就能解决的:awkward:
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发表于 2007-8-22 16:16 | 显示全部楼层
卖了海爷西尔唯丝特又可以赖着不走了:awkward:
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发表于 2007-8-22 16:18 | 显示全部楼层
曼联如今缺乏杀气,找几个屠夫来吧……
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发表于 2007-8-22 16:21 | 显示全部楼层
阿森纳最惨!做了个冤大头。
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发表于 2007-8-22 16:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 石中剑二 于 2007-8-22 16:16 发表
卖了海爷西尔唯丝特又可以赖着不走了:awkward:

都续约了,本来就不走了:sweat:
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-22 16:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 karll 于 2007-8-22 19:01 发表

我没看明白你想说明什么- -
既然英超认为那份协议只对国外俱乐部有用的话~那海因策也没办法~毕竟他和MU还是有合同的~
实在想去利物浦的话~可以学加拉一样~闹~ ...

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还不明显么...
合同上是6.8M buy out...
现在由于利物浦介入...
合同变废纸了...
很好很强大...
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发表于 2007-8-22 16:38 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 krit 于 2007-8-22 16:28 发表

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还不明显么...
合同上是6.8M buy out...
现在由于利物浦介入...
合同变废纸了...
很好很强大...

问题是并不是合同里写明6.8Mbuy out  就像西甲的违约金写进合同一样

而是吉尔单独写给海的一张证明~~关于那张证明里有无暗示只适用于英超以外,我们都不知道~不能凭海的一面之词吧
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发表于 2007-8-22 17:46 | 显示全部楼层
以前总觉得在转会市场方面,莫拉蒂够脑残了,现在看来,跟卡尔德隆比起来,还远未够班啊。

买人被宰,卖人还被欺

有感于米兰500W拿下埃默森
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发表于 2007-8-22 17:47 | 显示全部楼层
LS怎么不说1800W拿下奥利维拉呢???:awkward:
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发表于 2007-8-22 17:48 | 显示全部楼层
似乎是500租借一年第二年500优先购买?
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发表于 2007-8-22 17:50 | 显示全部楼层
论黑历史,有伦帝尼在,奥利维拉就没有发言的权力……

750W拍下肥罗,怎么说也算是成功的操作了
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发表于 2007-8-22 17:52 | 显示全部楼层
昏招谁都会有
只不过别人可能稍微多点,所以有黑洞的美誉啊,我们应该厚道一点~~~~:glasses1:

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发表于 2007-8-22 17:54 | 显示全部楼层
:smoke: 在黑洞这方面,AV没有必要向表妹低头。
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发表于 2007-8-22 17:55 | 显示全部楼层
貌似BAIDU贴吧有人说,把卡尔德隆和米贾托维奇打包送给巴萨,还倒贴2毛5……:awkward:
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发表于 2007-8-22 18:54 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 菜头王子 于 2007-8-22 17:55 发表
貌似BAIDU贴吧有人说,把卡尔德隆和米贾托维奇打包送给巴萨,还倒贴2毛5……:awkward:

说这话的人赶快送去人道毁灭
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发表于 2007-8-22 21:19 | 显示全部楼层
代言金嗓子+埃默森加盟=卡卡离队倒计时  

:D 马戏团球迷实在太有才了……
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发表于 2007-8-22 21:19 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 菜头王子 于 2007-8-22 17:46 发表
以前总觉得在转会市场方面,莫拉蒂够脑残了,现在看来,跟卡尔德隆比起来,还远未够班啊。

买人被宰,卖人还被欺

有感于米兰500W拿下埃默森

明显这几年加里亚尼脑残无极限
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发表于 2007-8-22 22:09 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 远野英治 于 2007-8-22 21:19 发表

明显这几年加里亚尼脑残无极限

话不能这么说,好歹我们上个赛季还是拿了欧洲冠军联赛冠军的

虽说其实主要还是靠一批老面孔……XX
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发表于 2007-8-22 23:02 | 显示全部楼层
因为他姐姐被绑架了。。。。。。。我觉得
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-22 23:26 | 显示全部楼层

what\'s going on...

I think what’s in the news between yesterday and today about Chelsea tabling a new offer or Jose Maria del Nido rejecting two fresh offers from unknown/unidentified club(s) is an attempt by a section of the press to give legs to the Marca-originated story of yesterday. It is an attempt to give the impression that things are happening on the Alves front and that not only Chelsea are in the running. It is a well-worn path that cannot stand scrutiny.

(1) The Cicinho plus cash for Alves story has been on since Adam. The only definite thing supported by Madrid officially was that Cicinho would likely move to Roma if both clubs reach an agreement. Suddenly, that possibility evaporated on Sunday after the Super Cup, as the Roma delegation weren’t even entertained. Now, we are back to the same story, debunked by Cicinho himself, of the possibility of him moving to Sevilla (though, of late, the waters have been further muddied by the claim that he’s open to such a move). Well, I don’t know what the truth is; but what I said earlier, even at the time the Cicinho Roma move looked a done deal was that Madrid cannot afford to sell Cicinho now and that if he’s going to move at all, it’s to Roma. He rejected a move to Sevilla last year; nothing has convinced me yet he will accept it this time. I think the story is a rehash of a dead Madrid gambit good enough only for paper sales.

(2) The Cicinho plus cash for Robben story is a new angle being introduced to the issue. Even though we must expect Chelsea to be working on alternatives to Alves, I do not think Mourinho is keen on Cicinho as the competition he wants for Ferreira and/or Johnson or the kind of player he needs for his purpose. I also do not know whether Cicinho would be keen on London. I personally don’t know whether Madrid are still interested in Robben, considering the pair of Dutch players they picked up recently and considering reports that suggest Schuster’s now looking for an attacker. Even if they’re still interested, I do not think Chelsea are ready to sell them Robben (though they seem not to discourage their advances outright). Chelsea have reported Madrid to FIFA last year for their unwholesome advances to Robben; I don’t think they’ve forgiven Madrid enough to want to sell them the same player. Chelsea recognize that their problem with Robben is not football, but money-related. If Robben really wants to leave, he would have to put in a transfer request, something he wouldn’t do for the obvious financial reason, at least. Reading between the lines of the latest statement credited to Robben’s father and agent, it would seem he’s not very sure now of his son going to Madrid. If Robben does not put in a transfer request, I think we’ll keep him. I’ve kept saying long before now that the deal for Alves is no longer dependent on the sale of Robben.

(3) The statement about rejecting two new offers ascribed to Jose Maria del Nido is unlikely to be true because he’s already established a pattern when making such statements. They almost always first appear on his club’s website. Marca claims he’d said it, but nothing on Sevilla website about it, except his own statement on the Juande Ramos situation. Juande Ramos himself at a press conference today talked about the Daniel situation and that really is what should give us a better insight into what is going on.

(4) I do not think this period of international break would see much movement from either party for obvious reasons. The player is away on international duty and any deal would be dependent on him being injury-free on return. Until after the Brazil versus Algeria game in Montpellier tonight, no one would be making any move. In the meantime, I think the press is trying to fill the information gap with all sorts of rehashes masquerading as news.


Now, let’s consider the Juande Ramos comment on the Daniel situation, excerpted from Sevilla’s website:

http://www.sevillafc.es/_www/actualidad.ph...not&id=8763


He understands Daniel´s dilema

Juande also spoke about Alves´ situations: \"From day one I understood his desires. If someone offers you six times the amount of money that you are currently earning, of course you will accept it. My situation is different as I have different requirements and also the career of a manager is longer than a player´s, therefore I have more time to weigh up my options.

Juande justs wants closure on Alves´ future: \"It would be best for everyone if we reached some closure on this situation with Daniel. If he wishes to play he will play, but if psychologically he isn´t right to play then he won´t. I have to talk to him about it but the other day he played superbly against Real Madrid\".


What this comment tells me is that Alves is pretty decided where he wants to go and his coach knows, even if he didn’t mention names. Before the unsubstantiated ‘news’ today of one of his agents meeting Mijatovic, only one club has been mentioned in the context of reaching personal agreement with him and they’re Chelsea. This is what Alves himself has publicly admitted; this is what his agent, Geronimo Suarez has publicly admitted. Everyone knows Alves has reached an agreement with Chelsea and no other before now. We need not speculate about which club are offering him six times the amount of money he’s currently earning. Alves’s only choice is pretty clear. No dispute – Chelsea. He’s accepted Chelsea’s offer; the only thing remaining is for the clubs to agree. He’s also now revealed that unlike previous years, the player has no more time to weigh up other options. The deal has to be done now

Secondly, it would seem that Ramos has inadvertently revealed that the Sevilla people are now battle-weary. It would be best for everyone if they reach “some closure on the situation with Daniel”. This reveals that under the surface, there’s a lot of tension at Sevilla over this issue. The pressure is more on them to shift ground than for Chelsea, because (1) they have the unsettled player and (2) they have the singular responsibility of trying to explain to a player bought for just about £600,000 why whatever Chelsea are offering now isn’t profitable enough.

The question of whether or not Alves would play is otiose. Reading between the lines, the coach expects him to have left the club before he or Daniel would have to make that decision. Considering that the second leg of the CL qualifier would be about the time of the transfer window closing, playing him would be statement enough that they want to keep him. But, of course, the coach knows he’d have to do a huge psychological work on him to get him in the mood. And, if he’s not psychologically prepared, he simply won’t play.

I suspect that tomorrow and next are the decisive days in this affair. In the meantime, let’s see if Alves would be speaking in France about his future before or after the friendly with Algeria, whether or not Dunga picks him.

BTW: We all keep debating the price, but the fact of the matter is we cannot be sure of the figures being bandied about now.w

[ 本帖最后由 krit 于 2007-8-23 03:27 编辑 ]
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发表于 2007-8-23 00:43 | 显示全部楼层
奥利维拉一个赛季在西甲也能进20个球呢,一千八百万也还可以了,非要放马后炮那是没意义的。
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发表于 2007-8-23 00:48 | 显示全部楼层
http://sports.sina.com.cn/g/2007-08-22/11543119668.shtml

\"新浪体育讯 有时候,当一个女人真心爱上一个男人时,是很难爱上第二个男人,就算曾经相爱的人因为各种原因分开,但在女人内心深处,那个无数日夜抱着她进入梦乡的男人,还是占据无法磨灭的地位。\"

\"克莱尔最近就天天以泪洗面,一个人独自守在空旷的房间,躺在曾经温馨的床上。一个人,再也找不到甜蜜的感觉,再也找不到男人给予的温暖,再也找不到所谓的爱情。剩下的,就是少妇克莱尔,一个人睡,一个人哭,一个人闷,一个人......。所以得到这样的消息,克莱尔称自己依旧爱着亨利,依旧想重新回到亨利的怀抱中。\"




有人看这篇了么...写的太矫情了...笑死我了...体育版还写的这么煽情...
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发表于 2007-8-23 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
又是金刚吧?
据性浪的朋友透露,这丫上次给阿根廷宝贝儿写了几首诗之后反响强烈,编辑部天天接到热情而愤怒的电话,根据上级意见,金刚同学写诗的权利已经被剥夺了。
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发表于 2007-8-23 01:03 | 显示全部楼层
(金刚)

:awkward:
原來還是個名人阿,我煋了。
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发表于 2007-8-23 01:23 | 显示全部楼层
金刚是个你给丫个图片丫就能写花边的主儿。
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发表于 2007-8-23 03:19 | 显示全部楼层
MB第一次看阿根廷的比赛想骂娘
这个加雷防守不行就不说了 补时该进攻时这丫拼命往回传
大米利托也不行
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