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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paladin#Holy_Warrior
While the word is supposed to derive from the latin root palatinus, does anyone know if this word is at all related to the Arabic terms Pulah d'hiin? d'hiin is a common suffix in Arabic which means "of God," and the concept of a "holy warrior" was much more prevalent in the Muslim world than the Christian one. Since the history of the word "paladin" supposedly started in the 15th and 16th century, there's a good possibility it may be an adopted word. Anyone have any idea? Spectheintro 02:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)spectheintro
isnt the paladin supposed to be a warrior of the church?
In Dungeons & Dragons, yes. See Paladin (character class) for more on that specific kind of paladin. -- Smerdis of Tlön 20:20, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Why does this page mention howitzers and character classes? Isn't that was disambiguation pages are for? --71.251.5.21 02:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd really like to see this article fleshed out to explore how this idea of paladins as warriors of God came to be... if there is any interesting origin to it. RobertM525 08:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
I've never heard "paladin" referring to a fighter of the church outside of games, so I don't think there's much history there. I'm not sure, but I'd imagine the idea was due to the Song of Roland ' portrayal of the Peers championing everything that is good about France and Christendom against the Saracens, who represent the evils of paganism and foreign oppression. Dungeons and Dragons wanted to keep the idea of a righteous warrior battling evil, but without associating that evil with real-world religions or groups, as a more specific term like "crusader" might; beyond that they probably chose the word because "knight" implies a warrior on horesback, while "paladin" does not.--Cuchullain 22:00, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Indeed, you are likely right. It's probably a pseudo-historical D&D convention that snowballed out of the RPG world and into all kinds of fantasy things... but mostly just video games. :) RobertM525 07:13, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I traced the word back to the Salii, who 500BC were paladine, i.e. living on Palatine Hill, based (among lots of sources) on Dahlheim: History of the Roman Principate. They were priests of Mars, so, in the broadest sense, close to warriors. No, it is not of Arab origin, continious sources state it always applied to the people from the palatinus. The "warriors of God" is a 18th century romanticisation, and refers to the medieval interpretation of the Roman palace guard + priest of Mars. There still needs to be an explanation of the historical liability of the twelve Carolingian knights. Flammingo 18:45, 6 October 2006 (CET)
It is entirely possible, and even probable, that the Arabic term was derived from the Latin one, since it was created first. Also, as an interesting historical sidenote, Sala'din is sometimes referred to as Sala'din the PaladinAlexander 21:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Would it be all right to add a note in the literature section on the Middle English word douzepers, which seems basically to have the same meaning as paladin (with my reference to the OED)? It also seems to have gained some currency outside the Matter of France in later Middle English, considering its usage in romances of other Matters (like the Alliterative Morte d'Arthur). Sorry if this is pointless or redundant, I'm kind of new to editing on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Highly Sensitive Percy (talk • contribs) 01:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Palitinus is not actually a Latin adjective that does not exactly mean "of the Palatine" it only deems a relation to the hill. Palatinus is meant to work a verb, and of the masculine gender at that (Palatina = femenine, and palatinum = neuter). Palatium is the verb for the Palatine hill, it is a neuter noun, and when given the ending of -i (Palatii) it means "Of the Palatine." though it may be loosely related to the article it is an eye sore to some one who has taken the time to learn Latin. (I used the textbook "our latin heritage" by Lillian M. Hines to make sure that I was correct in my translations.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.147.104 (talk) 06:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
This error is characteristic of the current low standards of this article. We're trying to sort it out at the bottom of the talk page but so far no progress has been made.--Cúchullain t/c 22:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
I believe the Paladin comes from Persian word Pooladin, which means made of Steel, Hence the armor of the ancient Knights, Also Refer to the Oldest Depiction Of Knights at Kermanshah Carving in Iran —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.206.65 (talk) 06:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
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