《蜘蛛侠：纵横宇宙》讨论楼 / 下半新档期待定……

风萧飒

布鲁大仙 发表于 2023-6-19 14:30
截止23年6月这个时间点，索尼跟漫威在蜘蛛侠这个ip上到底什么关系，看到一堆说法说漫威要把迈尔斯放进漫威 ...

从版权上索尼是只有蜘蛛侠影视版权的，然后目前索尼是负责蜘蛛侠真人电影发行，拍摄交由漫威。另外真人版迈尔斯前段时间索尼也官宣了，但具体什么情况还不清楚

—— 来自 S1Fun

风萧飒

好像大概率要跳票了

—— 来自 S1Fun

风萧飒

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外网mttsh、Discussingfilm、vulture爆料
1.一名动画师爆料蜘蛛侠超越宇宙根本不可能在2024年3月29日上映
2.第二部蜘蛛侠纵横宇宙实际到5月初都没完成制作(更别提超越宇宙了)
3.一周工作7天每天11小时，在纵横宇宙上映前有约100位动画师离职
4.纵横宇宙剧本和作品调整了5次导致了动画师们的不停修改返工
5. “第三部取得的唯一进展是在电影被分成两部分之前进行的任何探索或测试。”(意思是第三部压根就还没怎么开始做)
6.超越宇宙会被至少推迟到2025年，甚至2026年

—— 来自 S1Fun

荡寇将军张嶷

毒菇 发表于 2023-6-23 17:33
好看，格温真是太赞了

但是这个主要矛盾，因为英雄克服了苦难成就英雄，所以苦难是英雄的充要条件 ...

某种意义上把地狱笑话当正式故事设定，是有点挺缺德的，比如某个心理咨询室里还没走出失去本叔痛苦的小虫，但唯一好在故事足够好，那就还勉强说得通…………

古凌锋

毒菇 发表于 2023-6-23 17:33
好看，格温真是太赞了

但是这个主要矛盾，因为英雄克服了苦难成就英雄，所以苦难是英雄的充要条件 ...

次男道完全两码事，那是宗教狂信徒……

河森老宅男

刚看完杜比影院，画面音乐不错，但是这剧情主要矛盾说不过去啊

西瓜不甜不甜

那个消息来源可靠吗

最强惠酱

这下真延到26年了

—— 来自 samsung SM-S9110, Android 13上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.5.4

真实之影

真就一个大跳到26年了……

風卷豹

26年还挺正常的，之前24年大概是索尼的策略？
重刷了一遍，发现斑点和迈尔斯第一次共感看未来的时候除了迈尔斯他爸还有几帧印度警官的影子，可能最后也是同样处理方式，救下他爸然后集体消除扭曲，毕竟印度蛛那边都能搞定。
格温世界欺凌彼得的是内德，虽然原典应该是彼得的同事，但是体型更像mcu那个的平行宇宙体；再加上都知道的调侃199999宇宙和甘克那点可怜的出场时间特地强调自己不会做蜘蛛侠背后的男人，索尼这边是有多嫌弃mcu版

—— 来自 blackshark SHARK PRS-A0, Android 11上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.5.2-play

Piano-Forest

不清楚消息源，截止目前官方没宣延期（但看之前曝出来的消息，下半续篇大概率是要延期了）


没细看，但这图里的promise打错了
https://p.sda1.dev/12/1cb87f9edb ... 20230627_011522.jpg

clover293

目前官推还没出消息

Lyzers

说起来这部里还有强调黑化的加菲这个梗，不知道是不是吐槽MCU虫3里那个唐突的超凡黑化设定，还是有别的笑点？

飞升之后

Lyzers 发表于 2023-6-27 12:25
说起来这部里还有强调黑化的加菲这个梗，不知道是不是吐槽MCU虫3里那个唐突的超凡黑化设定，还是有别的笑点 ...

可能造势吧，不是有说超凡3要拍了

Lyzers

飞升之后 发表于 2023-6-27 12:28
可能造势吧，不是有说超凡3要拍了

超凡3这种不是虚中虚的东西吗

SSSS.崚

Lyzers 发表于 2023-6-27 12:25
说起来这部里还有强调黑化的加菲这个梗，不知道是不是吐槽MCU虫3里那个唐突的超凡黑化设定，还是有别的笑点 ...

我一开始理解成加菲猫的那个加菲
还以为是什么加了"黑暗"前缀的同人小游戏或者编的流传坊间未播出恐怖剧集(就像《猫和老鼠》和《海绵宝宝》那样的？)

y433wu

未完待续+跳票
此风不可长

SorroFrost

26年那个消息不是很准确，但感觉24年上几率不大了，看之前访谈说剧本都没开始写，我都害怕他们能不能圆好故事

古凌锋

風卷豹 发表于 2023-6-27 11:29
26年还挺正常的，之前24年大概是索尼的策略？
重刷了一遍，发现斑点和迈尔斯第一次共感看未来的时候除了迈 ...

索尼嫌弃不嫌弃不知道，导演肯定嫌弃，平行宇宙甘克本来是重要男配直接剧情删干净+人设大变样防撞车了，我觉得喜欢迈尔斯这角色的人至少九成肯定讨厌MCU内德吧

玩玩而已别当真

今天才去电影院看了蜘蛛侠，真她娘的过瘾，但未完待续是几个意思，看到楼里信息说跳票到26年，心情更复杂了

remedios010000

26年底之前都是26年!
说起来,这片子跟流浪地球挨的挺近的,第一部18年底比球1早了仨月,第二部纵横宇宙比球2晚了仨月,争取27年春节两家一起出第三季好(抢)事(票)成(房)双

Piano-Forest

来自《蜘蛛侠：纵横宇宙》角色设计：jesusalonsoiglesias:

I’m fckin’ back!In the process of creating my final look we decided to get rid of the more muscular and well defined version to somethin mo neutral&keep closer to the Evan’s designThere on to explore some attitudes and hairstylesBut that will come laterPunk rules!🤟🏾  





Let’s move on! But before posting more Punk or Pav’s things I’m gonna show you some stuff in the order that it came. One of my first assignments was also to explore the new #MilesMorales   





now that he’s 2 yrs older more mature & self confident Now that he’s accepted he’s the new SpiderMan of his world At least he’s trying to




As we were exploring the new Miles obviously we should do the same when he was Spider-Man or learning how to be him finding his place in the world he’s supposed to protect. Things weren’t easy at first though





And some more poses






迈尔斯 VS SPOT
在新迈尔斯的早期探索中，必须设想他与对手SPOT之间可能的互动/战斗，这部分参考了漫画以及Aymeric Kevin已有的设计作为参考。

以下是画的一些关于SPOT如何使用他的能力的草稿图

(Edited) ✅Along my early explorations of the new Miles I also had to work on his possible interactions/fights with his antagonist The Spot for whom I used as references the comics and previous designs by @AYMRC 👈🏻😍I drew some options of how The Spot could use his powers





before he really understood what he had in his hands. I figured that out not just like black spots but also as black blobs , blotches and gooey spheres and graphic designs of dark energy. Part of that set the path to my later work on The Abyss

Piano-Forest

Piano-Forest 发表于 2023-7-1 16:23
来自《蜘蛛侠：纵横宇宙》角色设计：jesusalonsoiglesias:

I’m fckin’ back!In the process of creating ...

Maybe you didn’t know me. Nobody did in fact. But you will. Sure you will. I’m The Spot. Just a pale faceless guy ‘though I haven’t been always like this. This I’ll show you later. Something black&evil& strong is in me. Dark as an abyss (👉🏻alt for info)





able to swallow this world itself as you know it. This and every other world you may imagine. Don’t believe me? You think I’m kidding, right? Wait and see. Here some options of how I could have been but y’all dug the goofier one. I hate you!!(👉🏻 pls alt😉)





Ok ok this is me again Well, not exactly but really close I needed some minor fixes to be the handsome, lovely and extremely attractive villain this world needs 3D model made by the outta dis world artist and master Omar Smith So sick man!! Lines&extra noise by me






Io sono Il Avvoltoio, #TheVulture, e questa è la storia di una sconfitta. Perché sì, sono stato sconfitto da Spider-Man ma prima che riuscissi a sconfiggere Jesús Alonso HAHAHA Non poteva essere all'altezza del grande Leonardo che ha immaginato per me queste ali…⬇️⬇️





e tutto questo costume per seminare il terrore nel mio tempo Il suo fallimento è stata la mia vittoria Ma quella squadra!ARGHH!E quel Mauro Belfiore!Solo lui poteva disegnarmi alla maniera del maestro Da Vinci!In ogni caso queste sono le immagini del suo fallimento(I)





Sono tornato! E come puoi vedere, non è facile essere all'altezza del maestro Leonardo, eh, Gesù? Come hai potuto essere così stupido e pensare che ce l'avresti fatta? Che audacia! Che mancanza di umiltà! @shinypinkbottle ti ha indicato la strada e tu... ti sei perso hahaha





Spero che ti sia almeno divertito quel viaggio caotico, artista! hahaha Hai anche costruito un'ala di carta imitando il genio! Quanto sei patetico! Meno male che Mauro! Arghhh, maledetto Mauro!!

Piano-Forest

角色设计·kris anka—角色设定稿

迈尔斯：
对我来说，迈尔斯可能是概念上最难完成的任务之一。
我非常努力在保有《平行宇宙》服装有效设计的同时，为制服加入新的东西。
这些设计都是在5个月的时间里完成的。

但这些都不真正成功，它们总是让人觉得是以前见过的。《平行宇宙》里的制服已经成为迈尔斯的标志。这让我不知如何从中剥离开，并且做一些新东西。

格温：
我们知道并不是真的想改变她的已有公式，而是想要一套感觉不同但又相同的制服。
我的目标之一是试试看能不能在她身上放上一个真正的蜘蛛标志。

My man #MilesMorales   
MIles was probably one of the hardest assignments conceptually for me. I struggled greatly finding something new with the costume but also holding on to what worked about the ITSV costume. these were done over the course of 5 months.

None of these were really successful, they always felt like something we had seen before. The ITSV costume had at his point become so iconic for this Miles that I just couldn't see how to separate from it and do something fresh.






So #spidergwen   
We knew we didn’t really want to change the formula for her, we wanted a costume that felt different, but the same.
One of my goals was to see if I could get an actual spider logo on her.




Ultimately Gwen came together pretty easily, we ended up pretty close to the original with some minor alterations (I liked the gloves cause it gives a pop punk/emo vibe).
I always enjoy being asked to draw directly on the model.






#PeniParker and Sp//dr
Spent a little time on her, pitched an idea for her to have a plug suit, but mostly worked on the new mech. Just tried my hand at adapting the design from the comic by @/ JakeWyatt and no one said no






For something a little different, here is Gayatri
One of the last designs I did on the movie, an absolute blast. Had a lot of fun working in little hints to classic Gwen color schemes.





How about some #SpiderCat
A very fun assignment, I based her on one of my friends cats.
I even tried a few version more accurate to the comic character.





#WebSlinger was one of the most fun assignments I had. Spent months exploring all kinds of different cowboys and cowgirls until we settled on something a bit more classic. This is one of the characters I spent a lot of time getting the details right.





With #Widow the details were really important. I spent a ton of time doing research, and asking several friends who had been riding for their whole lives so i could understand everything I could about saddle construction. A lot of of job is highlighting details so it translates.





This is honestly kind of a good time to mention  that a lot of my time was spent doing drawing overs, or that designs are just based on tweaking previous models.
But regarding Webslinger, I added a little Pedro Pascal to a Peter model

Piano-Forest

Piano-Forest 发表于 2023-7-1 16:46
角色设计·kris anka—角色设定稿

迈尔斯：

#SunSpider was absolutely one of my favorite assignments on the film.
I poured over @dayn_does_comix original designs to include as many design markers as I could, while trying to see if I could plus up the design.
Had to make the wheelchair a mech that could follow her around.





A few more pieces showing some detail breakdowns.
Dayn’s very original concept for the character had collapsible crutches so I really wanted to bring that back.




#SpiderUK
The idea was to always give her a hijab, so I took a wide look at different ways to wear it, but especially athletic versions. Swimmers uniforms was a big inspiration for me, but I also needed to consult hijab wearers on correct construction







For #SpiderCanada I worked pretty heavily with @okeefe_artist who had a very clear direction and wanted the suit based on the 1972 Team Canada Summit Series jersey






Some of my #Spiderbyte work
Was really fun to figure out how to show a digital character that didn’t look like Miguel or Lyla.






Spent a little time with #Araña
Exploring making her a body builder and rock climber.
I came back at the end after Mauro Belfiore’s incredible design to land the logo and tattoo on her






The #MangaverseSpiderman
Got to push the design a little bit, which was fun.
Included the model draw overs I did because for a lot of the characters, that’s where they really find their final form

Piano-Forest

Piano-Forest 发表于 2023-7-1 16:54
#SunSpider was absolutely one of my favorite assignments on the film.
I poured over @dayn_does_co ...

The #Rhino!
After quite a few adaptations of him being mechanical, I really pushed for something more classic and just a guy stuck in a suit. The fun was to find ways to make it seem like he was in it for a long time





A little bonus, but honestly my fav part of the production are when the models come back and I get to do draw overs on it.
This is a super important step that really helps establish what the actual final design is.

I actively asked to do as many draw overs as I could haha




We joked that every designer had to take a turn on the #Vulture
Here are some of the first sketches from my time. It’s all a collaborative process, and the only ideas of mine that really stuck were the “notes” that would draw in the air





These were my last pass on #Vulture
It was a fantastic process of building on what designs came before me and then from here it went off to Mauro Bellfiore who landed this design perfectly






My cover for #MilesMorales    for #AcrossTheSpiderVerse   

Piano-Forest

As a visdev artist, I focused on character paint for #acrossthespiderverse    My second assignment was to paint the main dude, Miles. This was my crash course on the Spiderverse style, while trying to keep it graphic and fresh. We went lots of rounds for a couple months on this.



Miles' character paint for his suit. Similar textures from the first film, carbon fiber etc. The logo and red stripes are new also, have more intentionality but still hand painted.


The logo needed to feel updated and more mature, like Miles, but still fresh and hand painted like the iconic first film. (No pressure)





Several (of many) glitch takes on the new spider logo, that would ultimately be used to create the cover art for the soundtrack and various other glitch graphics.




Another early assignment was the character paint for Vulture. He was supposed to be a Da Vinci parchment drawing come to life. I used a lot of hand drawn inks to get texture on the line work to avoid it feeling too digital







I got to work on the new Across the Spiderverse movie a while back, only for a very short time. I got to work of some of the visual features of Miguel O'Hara, it was amazing experience, and honor to have participated in the project :)

Piano-Forest

Piano-Forest 发表于 2023-6-11 12:20
Throwback Thursday to some vehicles designs.

Happy Thursday everyone

Spider HQ walkways/rest areas




Spider Drones



Door Options










Clean Up Crew Vehicles





Miguel's Injection Gun





Nueva York Skyline






Nueva York building designs





Nueva York

11116等

42宇宙的小黑就是义警，这样的话电视里说的那个对抗邪恶六人组的就是迈尔斯了

—— 来自 OnePlus PGKM10, Android 13上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.5.4

佛剑分说

西瓜不甜不甜 发表于 2023-6-27 06:55
那个消息来源可靠吗

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11z4y1n758/

这个圈内大佬说是真的，应该错不了了

gwchobit

佛剑分说 发表于 2023-7-5 05:40
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11z4y1n758/

这个圈内大佬说是真的，应该错不了了

当个八卦看看得了，视频评论区就有人放所谓内部员工的回应

仲可怀

说实话，这种反转就很没意思了，只是一个所谓叛逆点的英雄，本质上依然是好人，talk就解决问题了
这部结尾最大的悬念就是另一个自己因为自己的问题走上了彻底的对立面而且和自己对立，这样的立场和矛盾如何解决才是剧情的看点
你要变成了换了层的皮的自己那真没啥意思

duo_wolf

仲可怀 发表于 2023-7-5 14:48
说实话，这种反转就很没意思了，只是一个所谓叛逆点的英雄，本质上依然是好人，talk就解决问题了
这部结尾 ...

我也这么想的，如果这徘徊者迈尔斯真的也是义警，那我对下半部的热情要少掉一半以上

西瓜不甜不甜

佛剑分说 发表于 2023-7-5 05:40
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11z4y1n758/

这个圈内大佬说是真的，应该错不了了

唉希望最后能有个出品方、制作者和观众都能满意的结尾吧

Piano-Forest

The set design I’m most proud of from my time on Across the @SpiderVerse . This is an early version of what became the india/mumbattan collider. Originally spot was looking for a Dark matter Container.



Super early development I did for the Guggenheim fight at with DaVinci vulture in Across the @SpiderVerse






Four buildings I designed in 50101 Mumbattan for  Across the @SpiderVerse . The ink linework was based on classic Indian Indrajal comics. These buildings are also Modular using a system designed by @AYMRC






Various props and vehicles I did for Mumbattan in Across the @SpiderVerse !






A bunch of contact sheets of designs I did for the background vehicles and props if Mumbattan in Across the @SpiderVerse






Options, props, details and logos from my time designing the interior of the Mumbattan Alchemax dark matter container, which eventually morphed into the Mumbattan Collider.





Spiderpunk stuff i worked on that got cut from Across the Spiderverse! Such a fun assignment.






A bunch of designs I did of the exterior of Mumbattan Alchemax for Across the @SpiderVerse . Did a ton of iterations for this, after rewrites they went a different direction. Love the final version in the movie!

Piano-Forest

Early design of Pavitr Prabhakar


Pavitr Prabhakar expression sheet I did for AcrossTheSpiderVerse


Here's some design of Pavitr Prabhakar's mask in AcrossTheSpiderVerse



Him. A design I did for AcrossTheSpiderVerse



Spider Byte expression sheet I did for AcrossTheSpiderVerse



Here's some expression design of Ben Reilly, referenced from @AYMRC 's perfect design!



George Stacy expression sheet I did for AcrossTheSpiderVerse




I had a lot of fun working with the team in figuring out the expression design for Miguel.
We added some brush lines to bring out his facial structure. I hope it worked!

Piano-Forest

India concept












color keys

Piano-Forest

color keys

Piano-Forest

#color #design  #lighting  ideas for opening sequence
















colorscript for Gwen as she returns home from band practice. The goal is to always try to find a palette that supports the emotional part of the story at that moment in the film.



colorscript image for Gwen vs #vulture battle in #guggenheim Def look at IG @chuwenjie & @pixelpchan & @deangordonart #color & #lighting keys. They took it to the another level!



colorscript images of #GwenStacy & #MiguelOHara vs #vulture in the guggenheim







Early lighting keys of George & #GwenStacy in the Guggenheim






colorscript R&D Using loc scout imgs, @okeefe_artist , Dean Gordan & I tried to dev a realized naturalistic #lighting & #color palette that supported #MilesMorales Earth1610 . #cinematographer Bradford Young-huge influence.



colorscript images of #MilesMorales at BBQ & Grounded.




color key BBQ "Whatever".  As a collaborative group, sometimes we do a #paint over on top of first-pass renders to support the #vfx #lighting teams.  Then they make it awesome.




colorscript images #MilesMorales & Jefferson vs The Spot.




MilesMorales vs The Spot color design development.



Mumbattan colorscript panel.



The Spot vs MilesMorales Mumbattan - Alchemax colorscript image.



colorscript image NuevaYork Headquarters lobby. Layout by @okeefe_artist

Piano-Forest

SPOT 以及演化






Miles VS Spot visual madness