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本帖最后由 白龙 于 2010-5-24 00:26 编辑
<br>不知道有没讨论过这个事情
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<br>国内一个20岁的广西大学生用了很多时间精力，
<br>制作了初音MIKU的中文歌视频《西江月》
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<br>在上传NICONICO之后，受到了日本人潮水般的种族主义攻击，最后不得不自删
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<br>作品如下：
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<br>这次美国宅倒是相当冷静：
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<br>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/05/15/racist-japanese-rage-at-chinese-miku-mad/
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<br>種族主義日本人把一個中國 Vocaloid初音迷欺負瘋了，都是因為他居然膽敢让虛擬偶像MIKU唱中文。
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<br>《西江月》这首歌曲的問題，在即將形成流行之前被刪除 。
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<p style="font-weight: bold;">以下是部分评论：</p>
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<p>The idiots at 2ch are at it again... *sighs*</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">2ch上的那帮傻13又开始了……（叹气）</span><br /></p>
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I approve of Miku + Mozart.<br style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我想要Miku X 莫扎特的组合</span><br /><br />Racism ain't justified if the song rocks. PERIOD.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">就算歌特别地帅，种族主义也绝对不可容忍。</span><br /><br />Probably one of the best vocaloid songs I've ever heard, that's a shame.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">这可能是我听过最好听的Vocaloid歌曲之一了。他们真丢人</span><br /><br />There is so much shit going on in China worth of bashing - and they feel the need to bash something beautiful... -_-<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">中国本来有许多其他地方可以喷——结果这群人居然傻到要去喷这么好听的歌……-___-</span><br /><br />I agree, this is very good. Why the racism?<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我同意，这首歌很棒。种族主义你妹啊？</span><br /><br />
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<p>I would like to add:</p>
<p>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8705367</p>
<p>and while I admit, that anything other than japanese (songs) sound very weird to me(at first, at the very least),<br /> this song (the one in the article) sounds nice and well made.</p>
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<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我承认，所有非日语的语言唱出来都很奇怪（至少是刚开始），可是这一首（西江月）听起来制作得非常精良。</span><br /><br />Good riddance, death to China! Tenno Heika Banzai!<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">删得好，中国去死！天皇板载！</span><br /> death to your mom. by anal raping<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 你妈去死。被人爆菊爆死</span><br /><br />i told people long ago that 2ch are retarded faggots but people thumbed down and ignored my comment （￣ー￣）<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我很长时间以前就告诉你们2ch是一群白痴脑残然后你们就都无视我 （￣ー￣）</span><br /> well 2ch ahre hikis what do you expect<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">2ch全是一群家里蹲，不能指望啥</span><br /> 2ch = japan's gathering of tards.<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 2ch = 日本的傻13聚集地</span><br /> Sankaku is also a gathering of tards...<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 三角裤实际上也是个傻13聚集地……</span><br /><br />that song sucks. too much chinky stringed instruments.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">这歌难听。太多那种白痴中式的带弦的乐器了。</span><br /> Ironic, considering these chinky stringed instruments ended up in Japan.<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 真讽刺，想想看那些 “白痴中式带弦乐器” 被传去日本了呢。</span><br /><br />I'm just gonna say that the Chinese Miku is absolutely beautiful.The racial hate is pretty disgusting and all, but I'd rather talk about the video than the controversy.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我只是想说唱中文的初音绝对是太美了。种族仇恨相当的恶心，但我更关心这首MAD，而不是争议。</span><br /><br />This...is really good! Can't understand a word of it. I'm such a failure at being chinese.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">这……太棒了！但是一个词都却听不懂。作为中国血统压力很大</span><br /> I thought this song was pretty good too. Its mandarin (can't understand but can at least recognize it)<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 我觉得这首歌也很不错。唱的是普通话（一点听不懂但是至少能看出来是……）</span><br /><br />It's actually not too bad, considering how many non-Japanese Vocaloid songs have little to no resemblance to the original language... :/<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">实际上还不错，想想看有多少的非日语Vocaloid歌曲听起来和原来的语言八竿子打不到一起去... :/</span><br /> This video is so much better than the attempts to get Miku to sing in English. It actually sounds like passable Chinese <br /> instead of a robot croaking Engrish.<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 这首MAD比起那些想让Miku唱英文的歌要好得太多了。听起来真的很像合格的中文，比起那些机器音的“英文”尝试来说。<br /><br /></span>Ah! Deculture<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">啊！德卡路恰！(Macross乱入……）<br /><br /></span>I'm no friend of China, but that song is quite nice.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我不是中国之友，但是这首歌确实不错。</span><br /><br />Don't hate china that badly...you know there are load of merits for the existence of china...(You fapped over my pictures didn't you? -xia da)<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">别恨天朝……你知道她的存在也带来了许多的美好。（你们是不是对着我的照片撸炮了？）</span> <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">（这个是神ID：夏达 -_-)</span><br /> Maybe. ^_^<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 可能吧 ^_^</span><br /><br />20 yrs ago they just finished having a civil war + started communism<br /> they're bound to still suck after 20 years..<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">20年前他们刚刚结束一场内战 + 开始了共产主义</span><br style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">他们肯定会接着糟糕20年的……</span> <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">(此人历史无能还装B中)</span><br /> In the next 10 years, China will be more awesome than Japan in most of the social fields.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 接下来的10年，中国在许多社会方面将超过日本。</span><br /> people said that about China 20 years ago, and now it's 20 years later, and China is not awesome. 10 years later from now, <br /> China will still be epic fail, end of story. <br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">人们20年前就那么说了。现在是20年之后了，中国仍然不“好”。10年之后，中国仍然会是悲剧，毫无疑问。<br /> </span>It was only 10 years ago that the West and Japan started to recognize China becoming powerful. NOT 20 years ago.<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">只是在10年前，西方和日本才开始注意到中国在崛起。【不是】20年。<br /> </span>trust me they will....china's not just filled with fakers and trash-eaters just wait and see =d<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">相信我他们会（超越日本）的……中国并不是只有假冒产品和吃垃圾的。等着瞧吧 =D<br /> </span>Not sure about social, but economic it's already happened. China just became world's second economy, outing Japan.<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">社会方面我不知道，经济方面已经超越了。中国刚刚成为世界第二经济大国，超过了日本</span><br /><br /><br />either he did a great job or that voice synthetizer sound s a lot better in chinesse.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">如果不是他调教得好，就是那个声音合成成中文非常合适。</span><br /><br />Chinese Miku isn't all that bad. I thought it was actually pretty good. Oh you silly little 2ch peoples...<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">中文Miku不坏。我觉得其实很好。啊，你们这些2ch的小傻13们……</span><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /><br /></span>
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<p>both the song and the video is very moving. when you base your criticism of art on who made it rather than of the merits of the work itself, you'll lose out on life.</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">歌曲和视频都非常感人。当你批判的对象是“谁制作的”而不是作品本身带来的享受，你的生活就会是个悲剧。</span></p>
<p> That's what I'd like to say too, but childish behaviour always wins over good behaviour.</p>
<p> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 我也想这么说，但是幼稚的行为和成熟的行为比起来总是占了上风。</span></p>
<p>Silly nihonjins;)</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">白痴日本人;)</span></p>
<p>No idea how close to actual Chinese that is, but it sounds lovely.<br /> Sad that it got removed.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">完全不知道和真正的中文比起来发音如何，但是听起来很可爱。被删除了真可惜。</p>
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<br />Well its time for him to put it back up again, all their complaints mean they liked it.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">好吧现在是时候让作者回来了，所有的抱怨证明了他们确实喜欢这个MAD.</span><br /> lets upload it again!<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 我们再把它传上去！</span><br /> Let's upload it several times with the message "Take this, xenophobic douches!" in moonspeak.<br /> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 我们再传好几次，然后用日语写：“你们感觉如何了，排外的傻B！”<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">(moonspeak...倒A钢大木的NETA...)</span><br /><br />The song is realy cool. I'm loving this melodic sound which is better than some japanese Vocaloid-Songs.<br /> Don't know why some poeple need to be such racist basterds.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">这首歌很酷。我特别喜欢这种旋律的调调，比某些日文的Vocaloid歌曲要好。不知道为毛有些人就非得要当种族歧视的中二。</span><br /><br />This is beautiful. Shame the creator had to take it down. Saved.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">很美的歌。作者需要删除真是可惜。我存了</span><br /><br />I got the feeling that those reaction by the Japanese mean like "Miku is only for Japanese" or something like that<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我有种感觉就是那些日本人的反应是“Miku只是日本的！”差不多就是这样。</span><br /><br />
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<p>Japanese that act like racists??? Next you'll be telling me that the japanese don't like us foreign barbarians. </p>
<p>Oh.......</p>
<p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">日本人开始歧视了？然后你是不是就告诉我日本人一点都不喜欢我们这群他国的野蛮人？</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">啊……等一下……</span></p>
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<p>The chinese MAD sounds awesome, accompanied with the visual effectd, it's great.<br /> Well, if they can't accept it, too bad.<br /> I give the author my thumbs up.</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">中文MAD听上去非常好，再加上那些视觉效果，太棒了。如果他们就是不能接受，又怎么样。我给作者两个大拇指</span><br /></p>
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Don't the Japanese realize, the more otakus their are, the better chance anime has at surviving.<br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">难道这群日本人不知道，外面的宅越多，他们的动画就能活更久一些吗？</span><br /><br />
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<p>i get it!</p>
<p>JAPAN SUCKS.<br /> CHINA SUCKS.</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我明白了！！日本糟糕，中国也糟糕！！</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">（天然呆嘛喂）</span></p>
<p>Music and video is beautiful.<br /> Fuck you xenophobes and racists.</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">音乐和视频都很美。卧草拟大业，惧外的种族主义者</span></p>
<p>I think they are just uber jealous as fuck, thats a nice video ~</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我觉得他们只是嫉妒得要草马，这视频很棒~</span></p>
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<p>I'm Japanese and This Chinese (creator of this song) unauthorized use of this movie of another person.and Japanese creator of this movie requested for deletion.That's all. Racist remarks have nothing to do with the deleting his Hatsune Miku MAD.It's this Chinese fault.</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我是日本人，这个中国人（作者）非法使用了另一个日本人的电影资料，然后那个日本作者要求删除。就是这样。种族歧视的评论和删除这个视频无关。是这个中国作者的错。</span></p>
<p> don't lie here. that video is made by the creator of this song, there's no way that another ppl makes a MV for the song. or you <br /> think it is in Soviet Russia, the MV made the author? Racist, don't try to fool ppl. It's all your fault.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 别撒谎了。那个视频是作者为了这首歌而做的，不可能是另一个人为了这首歌做了个MV出来。要不然你以为这是在前苏联，</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 是MV把作者做出来了吗？种族主义者，别扰乱视线。就是你们的错。</span></p>
<p> aren't ARTS copyrighted in your country? even it's just a video, if an unauthorized arts was used, it's against rule and <br /></p>
<p> enough to be deleted. and look at all the miku arts used in the video, it's against the copyright. lol at the weak-headed <br /></p>
<p> anonymous. you trust articles without a source</p>
<p> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 难道【艺术作品】在你们国家不受产权保护的吗？就算只是个视频，如果是未授权使用，就是违反规则，足够被删除。</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 再看看那些Miku的作画，都是非法使用。我看着你的笨脑笑而不语……证据都没有来源</span></p>
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<p> Yes, they are, but not for COMMERCIAL use. They only use them to create equally free pieces so that others <br /></p>
<p> can utilize and enjoy. Talking about copyright, what about those ranranruu commercials or so many other videos <br /></p>
<p> on Nico? All deleted yet? Have you paid McDonald's the equal share of money for advertising for them?</p>
<p> lol at your hypocrisy.</p>
<p> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 受产权保护，但是是不允许【商业】使用。他们利用资源创作了同样免费的艺术品，这样其他的人可以共享。</span></p>
<p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 谈到产权，Nico上那些什么有关蓝蓝路的广告，还有其他的类似视频怎么样了？删了没？你们付没付麦当劳</p>
<p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 相应的使用费？</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 我看着某伪君子笑而不语</span></p>
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<p>I can't imagine if the Chinese said, "If we can't use your Miku, you can't use our kanji!"</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">我可不敢想象如果中国人说：“如果我们不能用你们的Miku，你们也不能用我们的汉字！”</span></p>
<p> nice one bro xD</p>
<p> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> 哥们说得好 xD</span></p>
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<p>还有很多长篇大论扯到两国历史的就不翻了……总之三角裤基友团也是很喜欢这首歌的……更验证了文化传播无国界的说法</p>
<p>值得某些下限喷自己还很自豪喷子学习的也就是这句</p>
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<p><font size="4">when you base your criticism of art on who made it rather than of the merits of the work itself, you'll lose out on life.</font></p>
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发表于 2010-5-23 23:57
曹操都变高达了,一首歌而已至于么...
这曲子确实非常棒，词曲混音出自一个20岁的学生手里...如果这人是业余玩音乐的，那就神到没边了..
发表于 2010-5-24 01:22
