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[足球] 2010南非国际足联世界杯讨论帖(单场比赛赛后合并)

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发表于 2010-6-12 15:32 | 显示全部楼层
欧洲祖宗对宇宙祖宗
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发表于 2010-6-12 15:40 | 显示全部楼层
容姿下降太多 请早日回家
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发表于 2010-6-12 15:40 | 显示全部楼层
梅西V5!
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发表于 2010-6-12 15:54 | 显示全部楼层
棒子在体力上有优势一 一
一群野驴啊
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发表于 2010-6-12 15:55 | 显示全部楼层
Soccer is communist

足球是GC主义运动。

Something about the soccer World Cup brings out the missionary in the mainstream media, and every four years they strive to bring the good news of \"the beautiful game\" to the ignorant American masses. This year is no different. The 2010 World Cup is set to begin in South Africa on June 11. More than just covering the month-long event, the media are already doing their best to hype it, overstating its popularity in the United States and its potential appeal to U.S. sports fans. From Time magazine dedicating an entire issue to \"The Global Game,\" to CBS\'s helpful \"The World Cup Guide for Americans,\" the public is being brow-beaten to catch \"World Cup Fever.\"
And while soccer partisans may try (mostly unsuccessfully) to score on point-by-point comparisons to baseball or football, the most compelling argument many media outlets can muster is, \"The rest of the world loves it. We should too.\"
The liberal media have always been uncomfortable with \"American exceptionalism\" - the belief that the United States is unique among nations, a leader and a force for good. And they are no happier with America\'s rejection of soccer than with its rejection of socialism.
Hence Americans are \"xenophobic,\" \"isolated\" and lacking in understanding for other nations and their passion for \"the planetary pastime,\" as Time magazine put it. But, they are confident, as America becomes more Hispanic, the nation will have to give in and adopt the immigrants\' game. On the other hand, the media assure the public that soccer is already \"America\'s Game,\" and Americans are enthusiastically anticipating the World Cup, even though the numbers don\'t bear that contention out.
So, every four years they return with renewed determination to force soccer\'s square peg in the round hole of American culture.

Soccer is Popular, isn\'t it?
Time magazine is leading the \"Ole\'s\" for soccer this year, putting the World Cup on its cover and dedicating 10 articles to the sport in its June 14 issue.
One of those articles proclaimed in the headline, \"Yes, Soccer Is America\'s Game.\" Author Bill Saporito argued that \"soccer has become a big and growing sport.\"
\"What\'s changed is that this sport and this World Cup matter to Americans,\" Saporito asserted. \"These fans have already made the transition from soccer pioneers to soccer-literate and are gradually heading down the road to soccer-passionate.\"
Soccer is even in the White House, Saporito pointed out. President George W. Bush was a former co-owner of a baseball team. And although President Obama played basketball, his daughters play little league soccer, and current White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs played soccer in high school and college.
On MSNBC\'s \"Morning Joe\" on June 3, host Joe Scarborough noted the importance of the World Cup to other countries, but explained that Americans just don\'t understand \"what a huge sport this is.\" Still, he said hopefully, \"It is a growing sport in America as well, isn\'t it?\"
Growing, but not \"huge\" by any standard. The final game of the 2006 World Cup drew 16.9 million viewers in the United States. While that number may seem respectable, it pales in comparison with the 106 million viewers that tuned in to watch the 2010 Super Bowl. The final 2009 World Series game drew 22.3 million viewers, and 48.1 million tuned in to watch Duke beat Butler in the 2010 NCAA men\'s college basketball championship.
A look at game attendance figures is instructive, as well. According to Major League Soccer\'s MLS Daily, as of June 7, 2010, the highest drawing pro soccer team, the Seattle Sounders, averaged 36,146 attendees over seven home games. Conversely, the Seattle Mariners baseball team has averaged 25,314 over 32 home games.
The Mariners are dead last in the American League West division, and 24th in the league in batting average, 30th in home runs, 27th in RBIs and 25th in number of hits. In short, they\'re horrible. With a record of 4-5-3, the Sounders aren\'t very good either, but they play in a very liberal city, are currently benefiting from World Cup year interest in their sport, and they play a schedule that allows far fewer opportunities for fans to attend.
Another number is Hollywood box office. John Horn of The Los Angeles Times contemplated on June 6 about Hollywood\'s lack of a mainstream movie about soccer. In \"Why is There No Great Hollywood Soccer Movie?\" Horn pointed out that each sport has its own hit movie except soccer.
He explained that, \"When 20th Century Fox adapted Nick Hornby\'s book ‘Fever Pitch,\' [the film starred Drew Barrymore and Jimmy Fallon] the subject sport was changed from soccer (the Arsenal Football Club) to baseball (the Boston Red Sox.)\"
But aren\'t American kids playing soccer in huge numbers? After all, there\'s a sought-after (by liberals) voting demographic out there called \"soccer moms.\" Yes, but as of 2009, soccer trailed baseball and basketball in terms of U.S. youth participation, according to the Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association.
And mass participation doesn\'t necessarily translate into lasting enthusiasm. That has to do with the reasons children play soccer in the first place. As both soccer\'s boosters and detractors have pointed out, at the youth level, it\'s easy, more about participation than competition. As Stephen H. Webb wrote at First Things last year, to contemporary American parents, \"Baseball is too intimidating, football too brutal, and basketball takes too much time to develop the required skills ... Soccer is the perfect antidote to television and video games. It forces kids to run and run, and everyone can play their role, no matter how minor or irrelevant to the game.\"
Those aren\'t the qualities that inspire love of a sport, and many children stop playing when they reach adolescence.
But in a World Cup year, no contortion is too severe to convince Americans to accept the sport. For example, The June 6 \"New York Times Magazine\" featured a piece titled \"Next-Gen American Soccer,\" a pictorial of young players it called \"The potential face of the U.S. national team at future World Cups.\"
Meant to show that the United States already has excellent young talent, and that the future is bright for American soccer, the introductory text contradicted the intention. Explaining that the photographer had to travel to two European countries and two U.S. cities to shoot these up-and-comers, The Times wrote, \"It\'s an itinerary that hints at another truth about American soccer talent: it\'s not only coming from abroad; at ever younger ages, it\'s also going abroad ... More than 200 prospects now playing in other countries would be eligible for the at next year\'s [Under]-20 World Cup. Ability and American citizenship are all that\'s required.\"
In other words, soccer is so popular in America that a good chunk of the nation\'s best young players go overseas to ply their trade. On the other hand, somewhere along the way these kids acquired U.S. citizenship, so they\'re going to carry our flag in future World Cups.

Why Should We Be Different?
As healthcare reform and stimulus spending have underscored, if Europe jumped off a cliff, the American left would be right behind it. So it makes sense that the media\'s main argument for accepting soccer is that \"everybody\'s doing it.\"
In his Time article, Saporito quoted Seattle Sounder\'s owner Joe Roth. \"Soccer is the only game played around the world,\" Roth explained. \"We can\'t be that different than anyone else in the world.\"
Roth also told the LA Times\' Horn that, \"We\'re basically a xenophobic country and don\'t look at what\'s going on in the rest of the world as closely as we should.\"
Liberal blogspot Huffington Post featured a June 4 article urging Americans to pay attention to the World Cup. In \"Why You Should Care About the World Cup,\" author John Vorhaus informed readers he would call soccer \"football\" in the rest of his article, and attempted to convince Americans to watch the World Cup because the rest of the world cares.
He argued that, \"Football wasn\'t my sport - isn\'t and never will be my sport - but billions of people care enough about it to put their lives on absolute hold for four weeks every four years.\" (Of course, Europeans famously put everything \"on absolute hold for four weeks\" far more frequently, when the entire continent shuts down for vacation in August.) \"As a responsible citizen of the world,\" he wrote, \"I feel like that\'s something I should pay attention to.\"
Vorhaus also asserted, \"More to the point, you\'ll get a taste of something that the rest of the world cares passionately about. In these troubled and isolated times in America, it couldn\'t hurt at all for us to understand the passions of our foreign friends, competitors, even enemies.\"
\"Citizens of the World\" (aka. liberals) talk about the World Cup with the same reverence they reserve for the United Nations, and invest the sport and its championship with symbolic importance.
Time\'s managing editor, Rick Sanchez, told \"Morning Joe\" on June 3 the World Cup was the \"biggest event in the world,\" and \"an optimistic idea,\" and soccer was \"a global sport.\"
Indeed, Time\'s cover story proclaimed soccer, \"The Global Game.\" Author John Carlin touted it as the \"species\' favorite pastime,\" a wonderful game because not only can it be played in most places, but the players are so physically diverse that almost everybody can play.
Carlin asserted that how soccer can bring divided groups of people together, but then quoted Nike\'s corporate vice president of global management as stating, \"We\'ve noticed there is nothing like the emotional connection that people have with soccer. There is a tribal instinct with it.\"
Like many things about America, its soccer backwardness embarrasses right-thinking liberal journalists.
In the same \"New York Times Magazine\" that featured the \"Next-Gen\" piece, Michael Sokolove wrote a article about an intense European soccer academy and reported that he, \"heard a lot of misconceptions ... Many people seem to believe that the sport is still a novelty in the United States, a game that we took up only the last couple of decades and that is not very popular or perhaps is even disdained by our best male athletes ...\"
He reported that Dutch soccer journalist and historian Auke Kok questioned if their \"football is too stylish, too feminine?\" Sokolove reported that was not the case, but still wondered why \"the United States still does not play at the level of the true superpowers of soccer.\"
Bleacher Report\'s Tyler Juranovich offered his own take into why Americans were so against soccer.
A soccer fan, he wrote, \"It\'s not news that soccer\'s popularity in America is slow growing. It\'s popular everywhere else but not in the good ol\' US of A. My theory is because America isn\'t as dominant at soccer as other sports, we have a hard time taking it seriously. Americans are a little arrogant when it comes to sports, and you can\'t really blame us. We are dominant in football, baseball, and basketball.\"

Diversity\'s Sake
Part of the liberal sales pitch for soccer is its popularity with Hispanics. Liberals who fetishize race are eager to adopt a sport with a special appeal for a certain minority, and it would never occur to them that new arrivals to the country might be well served adapting to traditional U.S. pastimes. To the left, it\'s America that must change.
Saporito maintained that \"the browning of America,\" will grow the sport. Time\'s Sanchez told Scarborough, \"... you know, when America becomes a nonwhite majority nation in 2040, I mean, you know, the sport of soccer is the sport of, you know, of Hispanic Americans, of all kinds of immigrants to America.\"
In his June 3rd \"guide\" to the tournament for ignorant Americans, CBS\'s Chris Matyszczyk (who actually wrote that baseball players wear \"girly pants\") posited, \"Very soon, America will be a Hispanic country. The Hispanic culture has always been very partial to the world\'s most wonderful game.\"
To Matyszczyk, soccer is the future, and demographics say so. Therefore, Americans should preemptively surrender for the sake of their children.
\"So, if all the obvious glories of the World Cup still cause you to utter expletives and bury your head in decaying Astroturf,\" he wrote, \"surely it is worth thinking of your children. They will be growing up in an America much different from yours, an America that has soccer at his heart and the NFL somewhere nearer its feet.\"
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发表于 2010-6-12 15:58 | 显示全部楼层
我阿拨毛!
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:01 | 显示全部楼层
毛利人来段哈卡……
就v5了
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:07 | 显示全部楼层
婷婷必胜!

梅西一定强!
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:08 | 显示全部楼层
必须支持奥托
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:08 | 显示全部楼层
虽然这届我认为是98年以来最差的一届,但还是要喊一句:加油吧!积攒这么多RP,该爆发了。
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:14 | 显示全部楼层
我是糙哥?带球精度85呢!

这几天状态还没出来而已
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:17 | 显示全部楼层
这场比赛一般会平,1:1
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:19 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得马拉多纳有“强运”特技。阿根廷会连滚带爬走很远。
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:23 | 显示全部楼层
平个P,希腊狂草南棒
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:34 | 显示全部楼层
祝旗开得胜
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:48 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-FO8oEWM_jY/
电子妖精版的也不错
不过最喜欢的还是剧场版那首Dearest
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发表于 2010-6-12 16:58 | 显示全部楼层
婷婷加油
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发表于 2010-6-12 17:15 | 显示全部楼层
做为S1最大的阿根廷球迷黑(不是阿根廷黑)我非常关注这个贴
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发表于 2010-6-12 17:19 | 显示全部楼层
新浪体育讯 北京时间6月11日,正在南非备战世界杯的曼联中场大将、韩国球星朴智星在力挺自己球队的同时,也坚信邻国朝鲜队会震惊世界。
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发表于 2010-6-12 17:31 | 显示全部楼层
意迷们纷纷表示不认识这届的意呆利队!
容貌和球技成正比+1
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发表于 2010-6-12 17:33 | 显示全部楼层
做为S1最大的阿根廷球迷黑(不是阿根廷黑)我非常关注这个贴
Mufasa 发表于 2010-6-12 17:15


+1
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发表于 2010-6-12 17:41 | 显示全部楼层
棒子的敌人就是我的朋友
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发表于 2010-6-12 17:51 | 显示全部楼层
阿根廷队外貌的下限。
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发表于 2010-6-12 17:57 | 显示全部楼层
你们都醒醒,今年这阿根廷,小组出线就该偷笑了
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发表于 2010-6-12 17:59 | 显示全部楼层
看热闹的德国球迷马克一记
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发表于 2010-6-12 17:59 | 显示全部楼层
黑叔叔打高空有机会啊!!!!
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发表于 2010-6-12 18:08 | 显示全部楼层
支持南北2棒回师决赛!(话说我没看分组,这两个能会师决赛么?)
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发表于 2010-6-12 18:11 | 显示全部楼层
棒子能打出疯狗战术就好看
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发表于 2010-6-12 18:23 | 显示全部楼层
谁来当大豪斯凯激发梅西的斗志呢
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发表于 2010-6-12 18:25 | 显示全部楼层
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ1NDQ4NjY4.html
每次世界杯我都在这熟悉的旋律下真心的为阿根廷祈祷
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发表于 2010-6-12 18:35 | 显示全部楼层
煤球王,一定强,先灭非洲鸟,再艹高丽棒,奥托大帝也惊惶。雄纠纠,气昂昂,南非谁能挡,老马也疯狂,宇宙队头牌终加冕,四夷宾服婷婷为尊皇。
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发表于 2010-6-12 18:39 | 显示全部楼层

橙子区(荷兰讨论帖)

本帖最后由 布拉伊达 于 2010-6-16 06:35 编辑

居然没有荷兰讨论贴,所以开一个
风水轮流转啊转,总有一天会轮到咱们家荷兰的吧。。。
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发表于 2010-6-12 18:42 | 显示全部楼层


首发出来了,巴里首发复出,莱德利金特里搭档中卫,米尔纳兰帕德双后腰,杰拉德左边列侬右边(会换位),守门员。。。詹姆斯。。
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发表于 2010-6-12 18:42 | 显示全部楼层
我表示这支意呆利已经有辱男模队的名号。。。
看好止步16强
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发表于 2010-6-12 18:44 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 赫萝 于 2010-6-12 18:47 编辑

霍,气度不够的人还真是不怎么好看啊,

当个阿根廷球迷也挺辛苦的。

到了比赛汝等还不能单纯点么。。。。
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