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鲜血秋叶 发表于 2024-12-10 22:50
不管啥派系,都不可能少了引渡巴沙尔这个条款

说实话如果新政府不把基地当做筹码,普京还是愿意保住巴沙 ...

毛子基地是我先开始念的,原因无它 新政权多一层保护伞一层稳定度挺好的。
你说用牙医换吧,我觉得就现在叙利亚的困境牙医反而是其次,更多的钱、军备、租金、粮食援助才是新政府想要的。

欧洲把叙利亚润人庇护停了,土鸡大概率要开始赶人,叙利亚还得凭空多一堆人口。
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土军进入曼比季
来源:Rerum Novarum // Intel, Breaking News, and Alerts
#以色列地面部队公开进入叙利亚##叙利亚总统阿萨德辞职##以军坦克向叙首都大马士革推进# ​​​

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wszweill 发表于 2024-12-10 22:43
抛开一切都不谈。纯军事上来说,IDF才几个人,目前转进叙利亚的就是北线防御奶茶店的部队。总不能指望临时 ...

HTS战斗力只能说比FSA和SNA这种纯傀儡军强点,不能和真主党比,而且关键是人家根本就没有抵抗意志,看到现在也该看出来了..... 朱大帅之前的外交表现还算不错,但是没有像阿塔一样及时接手军备就是菜了,还对以色列构了,那就没法再往下走了,只能做个地方军阀,而且是缩水后的HTS......
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天空塔书记官 发表于 2024-12-10 21:08
伊德利卜省北部,上百名此前被朱拉尼逮捕监禁的HTS系和其他极端武装派系人员家属正在卡哈监狱前进行坐地抗 ...

之前朱拉尼一直在靠军事铁腕手段压制伊德利卜小圈子(说个地狱笑话,朱拉尼在伊德利卜算是鸽派),随着地盘扩大,各个派系分散出去,再想用原来的方式维持统治就很困难了。

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#巴以冲突# 今天是世界人权日,加沙民防发言人马哈茂德·巴萨尔谴责世界对以色列占领加沙超过13个月以来持续犯下的暴行和侵犯行为保持令人不安的沉默和不承担责任。

​​​http://t.cn/A6mjBDjP

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吵基地和眼科医生的事没有任何意义,说吊路灯,叙利亚现在连个全国公审都组织不起来,哦,已经不是公审的问题了,这国都快没了,玩呢吧

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Aymenn J Al-Tamimi
@ajaltamimi
Assad's fall from the perspective of 'resistance axis' sources, though there is some clear spin from those sources. Seems to me pace of the insurgents' advance just threw Assad's allies into disarray, & they realised a sudden massive intervention was impractical & not worth it.

从“抵抗轴心”消息来源的角度来看阿萨德的倒台,尽管这些消息来源有一些明显的春秋笔法。在我看来,叛乱分子的推进速度让阿萨德的盟友陷入混乱,他们意识到突然大规模干预是不切实际的,不值得的。

文章:


Inside story: Hezbollah, Iran and the downfall of Assad
内幕:真主党、伊朗和阿萨德的垮台

https://amwaj.media/article/insi ... e-downfall-of-assad

The sudden downfall of Bashar Al-Assad has raised a number of questions about the thinking and roles of his supporters. First and foremost, Russia—the most powerful foreign ally of the Syrian government—played a pivotal role as events unfolded.
巴沙尔·阿萨德(Bashar Al-Assad)的突然垮台引发了人们对其支持者的思想和角色的许多质疑。首先,俄罗斯——叙利亚政府最强大的外国盟友——在事态发展中发挥了关键作用。

According to one high-ranking regional diplomatic source, Assad’s recent visit to Moscow was a turning point. While the Syrian leader was in Russia, forces led by the Sunni Islamist Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham (HTS) unexpectedly seized Aleppo without a fight. Upon his return to Syria, Assad is said to have expressed anger toward his army. In private meetings, Amwaj.media has learned, he lambasted his commanders as corrupt and untrustworthy—describing his army as a collection of “thieves” who cannot be relied upon. While Assad’s Russian host and counterpart, Vladimir Putin, had promised assistance, the senior regional source suggested that this support was limited to ensuring a safe exit. Given that Assad and his wife are now apparently in Russia, this promise has been kept—at least for now.
据一位地区高级外交消息人士称,阿萨德最近对莫斯科的访问是一个转折点。当叙利亚领导人在俄罗斯时,逊尼派**主义者 Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham (HTS) 领导的部队出人意料地不战而降地占领了阿勒颇。据说阿萨德在返回叙利亚后表达了对他的军队的愤怒。据 Amwaj.media 了解,在私下会议上,他抨击他的指挥官腐败且不值得信赖——将他的军队描述为一群不可依赖的“小偷”。虽然阿萨德的俄罗斯东道主和俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京(Vladimir Putin)承诺提供援助,但该地区的高级消息人士表示,这种支持仅限于确保安全撤离。鉴于阿萨德和他的妻子现在显然在俄罗斯,这个承诺已经兑现了——至少目前是这样。


The source also provided insights into earlier negotiations on Syria. Proposals for dialogue between the opposition and the government were discussed, with Turkey playing a significant role. Ankara reportedly instructed the opposition to act with restraint, and there was even coordination with the former Syrian prime minister to lead a transitional phase aimed at forming a new state. But none of these efforts really took off, partly due to the reticence of Assad to usher change. In parallel, informed sources in Tehran told Amwaj.media, the Turks allegedly blindsided both Iran and Russia by insisting that movement spotted among rebels in Idlib in recent months was nothing to worry about.
该消息人士还提供了对早期叙利亚谈判的见解。讨论了反对派和政府之间对话的建议,土耳其发挥了重要作用。据报道,安卡拉指示反对派克制行事,甚至与叙利亚前总理协调,领导旨在组建新国家的过渡阶段。但这些努力都没有真正奏效,部分原因是阿萨德对引领变革保持沉默。与此同时,德黑兰的知情人士告诉 Amwaj.media,土耳其人据称坚称最近几个月在伊德利卜发现的叛军动向没什么好担心的,这让伊朗和俄罗斯都措手不及。

Then there is the role of Iran, the Assad family’s longstanding regional ally. Seeing an armed rebellion take shape amid the Arab Spring protests, the Islamic Republic dispatched its expeditionary Quds Force to save its Syrian partner with blood and great treasure.
然后是伊朗的作用,伊朗是阿萨德家族的长期地区盟友。看到阿拉伯之春抗议活动中武装叛乱的形成,**共和国派遣了远征圣城旅,用鲜血和巨大的财富拯救了它的叙利亚伙伴。


Although the tide was turned against Sunni rebels and fighting frozen for the past four years, western sanctions gradually hollowed out the Syrian state. As the government in Damascus turned to large-scale drug trafficking to generate revenue, it became sorely apparent that only petrodollars and political pressure on western capitals from Gulf Arab states would enable a semblance of reconstruction. On this basis, Iran welcomed the pioneering decision by the Emiratis to reopen their embassy in Damascus in late 2018, ending seven years of estrangement. Facilitated by Abu Dhabi, Assad also gradually re-engaged with others who had backed the rebellion against his rule—including Saudi Arabia.
尽管过去四年来,形势发生了逆转,战火停滞不前,但西方的制裁逐渐掏空了叙利亚国家。随着大马士革政府转向大规模毒品贩运以创收,很明显,只有石油美元和海湾阿拉伯国家对西方资本的政治压力才能实现重建的表象。在此基础上,伊朗欢迎阿联酋人于 2018 年底重新开放驻大马士革大使馆的开创性决定,结束了长达七年的隔阂。在阿布扎比的推动下,阿萨德还逐渐与支持反抗其统治的其他国家重新接触,包括沙特阿拉伯。

But things took a turn following the Oct. 7, 2023 Palestinian surprise attack on Israeli border communities. As Hezbollah immediately opened a “support front” against Israel following the eruption of the Gaza war, the Emiratis reportedly sought to prod Assad into standing on the sidelines. Barely a week later, the diplomatic mission of Yemen’s Ansarullah movement in Damascus was shuttered, ostensibly as a precondition for Assad’s rapprochement with Saudi Arabia. The distancing from Ansarullah, better known as the Houthis, was particularly pronounced as the group over the past year rose to become a key member of the Axis through its drone and missile attacks on Israel as well as disruption of shipping in the Red Sea.
但在 2023 年 10 月 7 日巴勒斯坦对以色列边境社区的突然袭击之后,情况发生了转变。据报道,由于真主党在加沙战争爆发后立即打开了针对以色列的“支持阵线”,阿联酋人试图刺激阿萨德袖手旁观。仅仅一周后,也门 Ansarullah 运动在大马士革的外交使团就被关闭了,表面上是作为阿萨德与沙特阿拉伯和解的前提。与 Ansarullah(更广为人知的是胡塞武装)的距离尤为明显,因为该组织在过去一年中通过对以色列的无人机和导弹袭击以及破坏红海航运而成为轴心国的关键成员。

Meanwhile, as Israel frontally assaulted the Iranian presence—taking out the Quds Force command that helped Assad cling to power, and even razing an Iranian diplomatic compound in Damascus—the Syrian government largely kept mum. The same lukewarm approach was apparent in the statement Assad issued following Israel’s killing of Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah in Beirut’s southern suburb earlier this year.
与此同时,当以色列正面攻击伊朗的存在——摧毁帮助阿萨德夺取权力的圣城旅指挥部,甚至夷平伊朗在大马士革的外交大楼时——叙利亚政府基本上保持沉默。今年早些时候,以色列在贝鲁特南郊杀害真主党秘书长哈桑·纳斯鲁拉(Hassan Nasrallah)后,阿萨德发表的声明中也明显表现出同样的不冷不热的态度。

In other words, while Syria’s geography and official state ideology made it central to the Iran-led ‘Axis of Resistance’, Assad was apparently leveraging “non-resistance” to rehabilitate his standing among Arab allies of the US.
换句话说,虽然叙利亚的地理和官方国家意识形态使其成为伊朗领导的“抵抗轴心”的核心,但阿萨德显然正在利用“不抵抗”来恢复他在美国阿拉伯盟友中的地位。

So when HTS rolled into Aleppo and Hama without a fight, Iran was in no rush to come to Assad’s aid. The senior regional diplomatic source explained that despite the Syrian government’s urgent request for Iranian support, logistical constraints and operational risks—including potential Israeli airstrikes—made such assistance impractical. This, according to the source, further highlighted Iran’s growing burden in the Syrian crisis, which was no longer tenable. If direct access was to be physically constrained by Israeli air power, mindful of repeated bombings of runways in both Aleppo and Damascus as well as threats against Iranian flights in recent weeks, it ultimately diminished the value of Syria as an ally.
因此,当 HTS 不战而降地进入阿勒颇和哈马时,伊朗并不急于援助阿萨德。这位高级地区外交消息人士解释说,尽管叙利亚政府紧急请求伊朗的支持,但后勤限制和运营风险——包括以色列的潜在空袭——使得这种援助变得不切实际。据消息人士称,这进一步凸显了伊朗在叙利亚危机中日益增长的负担,而这种负担已经站不住脚了。如果以色列空中力量对直接进入进行物理限制,同时考虑到阿勒颇和大马士革的跑道反复轰炸以及最近几周对伊朗航班的威胁,它最终降低了叙利亚作为盟友的价值。

In this context, the Quds Force is said to have established contact with HTS, securing assurances amid the collapse of the Syrian army that Shiite Muslims and Shiite shrines as well as the Iranian embassy would be left untouched. The extent of the involvement of Iran’s diplomatic apparatus in this initiative is unclear. Nonetheless, as Iran’s evacuated embassy was ransacked on Dec. 8, the state broadcaster in Tehran highlighted that the assailants were “not affiliated with the group in charge [of Syria],” alluding to HTS having kept its word.
在这种情况下,据说圣城旅已经与 HTS 建立了联系,在叙利亚军队崩溃时获得了什叶派**和什叶派圣地以及伊朗大使馆的保证。伊朗外交机构参与这一倡议的程度尚不清楚。尽管如此,随着伊朗撤离的大使馆于 12 月 8 日被洗劫一空,德黑兰的国家广播公司强调,袭击者“与负责 [叙利亚] 的组织无关”,并暗指 HTS 信守诺言。


The Lebanese dimension 黎巴嫩维度

The role of Hezbollah, and specifically its ceasefire with Israel, is also crucial to understanding the story of the downfall of Assad. According to the senior regional diplomatic source, the truce—which went into effect as HTS launched its offensive—was an unavoidable outcome due to the unsustainability of Hezbollah’s confrontation with Israel. “The war had become too costly to continue,” the source explained, saying that Hezbollah “has serious shortcomings…it no longer has the resources to fight effectively and cannot acquire advanced weapons to shift the war’s trajectory.”
真主党的作用,特别是它与以色列的停火,对于理解阿萨德垮台的故事也至关重要。据地区高级外交消息人士称,由于真主党与以色列的对抗不可持续,停战协议在 HTS 发动攻势时生效,是不可避免的结果。“战争已经变得太昂贵了,无法继续下去,”消息人士解释说,并说真主党“有严重的缺陷......它不再拥有有效战斗的资源,也无法获得先进的武器来改变战争的轨迹。

Turning to Hezbollah’s broader strategy, the source pointed out significant flaws, criticizing the Lebanese movement’s transition toward conventional military tactics. “Resistance movements cannot operate like traditional armies,” he lamented, “Launching missiles and drones while trying to maintain deterrence in a conventional manner is unsustainable, and recent experiences have proven this.”
在谈到真主党更广泛的战略时,这位消息人士指出了重大缺陷,批评了黎巴嫩运动向常规军事战术的过渡。“抵抗运动不能像传统军队那样运作,”他感叹道,“发射导弹和无人机,同时试图以常规方式保持威慑是不可持续的,最近的经验证明了这一点。

The decision to end the war, according to the source, was led by Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri and Nasrallah’s successor Naim Qassem—with Iran’s approval, and even though the agreement was considered unfavorable. “It was better to preserve Hezbollah and the Shiite community than to face total destruction,” the senior source stated, emphasizing that the primary objective was to halt the fighting—and that this decision was Lebanese, not Iranian.
据消息人士称,结束战争的决定是由议会议长纳比·贝里(Nabih Berri)和纳斯鲁拉的继任者纳伊姆·卡西姆(Naim Qassem)领导的——得到了伊朗的批准,尽管该协议被认为不利。“保护真主党和什叶派社区总比面临彻底毁灭要好,”这位高级消息人士说,并强调主要目标是停止战斗——而这个决定是黎巴嫩的,而不是伊朗的。

The arc of Hezbollah’s involvement in Syria is long, but became particularly pronounced over the past decade. As the Syrian military was on the verge of defeat in 2013, the Lebanese movement and Iran were equally alarmed. Both saw the threat of Sunni militancy taking root across the region. Nasrallah and then-Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani also passionately charged that Damascus was crucial to the wider “resistance” against Israel, convincing Iran’s leadership that full-scale intervention was a must.
真主党介入叙利亚的弧线很长,但在过去十年中变得尤为明显。2013 年,当叙利亚军队濒临失败时,黎巴嫩运动和伊朗同样感到震惊。两人都看到了逊尼派激进主义在该地区扎根的威胁。纳斯鲁拉和当时的圣城旅指挥官卡西姆·苏莱曼尼 (Qasem Soleimani) 也热情洋溢地指责大马士革对于更广泛的针对以色列的“抵抗”至关重要,并说服伊朗领导层全面干预是必须的。


So in the spring of 2013, Hezbollah fighters moved into Al-Qusayr. Situated southwest of Homs, a key node connecting Damascus with the Alawite coastal heartlands, the region was vital to rebel factions which had emerged amid the Arab Spring. Its location near the border with Lebanon allowed them to smuggle in fighters and weapons, putting up stiff resistance against forces loyal to Assad. The battle was bloody, claiming the lives of over 100 members of Iran’s foremost Arab ally. But in the end, Qusayr was returned to Assad’s control, and the battle was later—together with Russia’s military intervention in 2015—chronicled as the turning point in the war against Sunni militants.
因此,在 2013 年春天,真主党战士进入了 Al-Qusayr。该地区位于霍姆斯西南部,是连接大马士革和阿拉维派沿海中心地带的关键节点,对于阿拉伯之春期间出现的叛乱派别至关重要。它靠近黎巴嫩边境,使他们能够走私战斗机和武器,对忠于阿萨德的部队进行顽强抵抗。这场战斗是血腥的,夺走了伊朗最重要的阿拉伯盟友的 100 多名成员的生命。但最终,库赛尔又回到了阿萨德的控制之下,这场战斗后来——连同 2015 年俄罗斯的军事干预——被记录为打击逊尼派激进分子战争的转折点。

A decade later, Qusayr once again held special symbolism as the Syrian army faltered in the face of the blitz led by HTS. With the fall of Aleppo and Hama within the span of days—and apparently without any real fight—Homs was in the spotlight. Without it, Assad would be left with only Damascus, cut off from the coast. Accounts of what happened next are conflicting. Initially, insiders charged that up to 2,000 members of Hezbollah’s elite Radwan Force were to be deployed for one last stand.
十年后,Qusayr 再次具有特殊的象征意义,因为叙利亚军队在 HTS 领导的闪电战面前步履蹒跚。随着阿勒颇和哈马在几天内沦陷——显然没有任何真正的战斗——霍姆斯成为了聚光灯下的焦点。没有它,阿萨德将只剩下大马士革,与海岸隔绝。接下来发生的事情的说法相互矛盾。最初,内部人士指控说,将部署多达 2,000 名真主党精锐的拉德万部队 (Radwan Force) 成员进行最后的抵抗。


But Hezbollah’s deployment turned out to be far smaller, with commanders quickly concluding that a withdrawal was in order after an operational assessment, Amwaj.media has learned. Shortly afterwards, informed sources explained, a decision was made to evacuate the country through the same route that had been used to enter the Syrian conflict back in 2013. According to a source in the area, soon after the Hezbollah convoy—said to have been made up of dozens of vehicles—crossed the border towards the Hermel district in Lebanon, Israel struck. Hezbollah keeps casualty figures a secret, but the losses from the bombing are said to have been “big.”
但事实证明,真主党的部署规模要小得多,指挥官们在进行行动评估后很快得出结论,撤军是必要的。知情人士解释说,不久之后,政府决定通过 2013 年进入叙利亚冲突的相同路线撤离该国。据该地区的消息人士称,在真主党车队(据说由数十辆汽车组成)越过边境前往黎巴嫩的赫梅尔区后不久,以色列就发动了袭击。真主党对伤亡数字保密,但据说爆炸造成的损失是“巨大的”。

Following the deadly debacle, a well-informed source in Lebanon told Amwaj.media that the decision to enter Homs and then withdraw was taken by a “Lebanese individual” and not upon an Iranian request or leadership decision. If accurate, this account of events raises concern that Hezbollah is no longer as disciplined as before. It also indicates troubling and potentially chaotic times ahead, as Iran and its allies struggle to adapt to a rapidly changing geopolitical landscape.
在这场致命的灾难之后,黎巴嫩一位消息灵通的消息人士告诉 Amwaj.media,进入霍姆斯然后撤军的决定是由“黎巴嫩个人”做出的,而不是根据伊朗的要求或领导层的决定。如果准确的话,这种事件的描述令人担忧,即真主党不再像以前那样有纪律。它还预示着未来将面临令人不安且可能混乱的时期,因为伊朗及其盟友正在努力适应快速变化的地缘政治格局。

Assad fell because “he wanted to prove to the west that he is not a warmonger,” an Iranian hardline lawmaker thundered as images emerged of HTS in control of Damascus. What this message may hold, and whether it will emerge as the dominant and coordinated approach of Tehran and allied capitals, remains to be seen.
阿萨德倒台是因为“他想向西方证明他不是好战分子”,当HTS控制大马士革的图片出现时,伊朗强硬派议员如此大声疾呼。这一信息可能带来什么,以及它是否会成为德黑兰及其盟国首都的主导和协调方法,还有待观察。
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等着吧,过几天就有人哭着喊着让医生回来了,最起码医生还会想办法让大家能吃上饭

“民主自由”的军队可不会考虑这些



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天空塔书记官 发表于 2024-12-10 22:59
吵基地和眼科医生的事没有任何意义,说吊路灯,叙利亚现在连个全国公审都组织不起来,哦,已经不是公审的问 ...

不公审的,hts和sna直接抓人当街处决
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老耗子 发表于 2024-12-10 23:09
不公审的,hts和sna直接抓人当街处决

真谈到牙医的时候已经是强大的叙利亚了,现在这个叙利亚能不能“强大”另说,别裂了。
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老耗子 发表于 2024-12-10 23:09
不公审的,hts和sna直接抓人当街处决

那杀了就没有任何意义

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发表于 2024-12-10 23:12 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
犹太佬这次不要太high,
给你一个做多尔衮的机会,
你会无动于衷嘛?
至于什么粮食问题人口问题,
嗯,这些都是人形生物野怪,
能用便宜的肉弹杀,那犹太佬绝不会用更贵的ap。
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叙利亚常驻联合国代表(临时政府留用)库塞·阿尔达哈克表示,他的代表团已呼吁联合国秘书长和安理会“停止以色列对叙利亚的袭击”。#叙利亚局势# ​​​

信源微博:南海的浪涛

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天空塔书记官 发表于 2024-12-10 22:09
据称伊拉克军方已开始在叙利亚边境挖掘防御工事应对极端事态。#叙利亚局势最新情况##以军坦克向叙首都大马 ...

伊拉克军队开始在与叙利亚交界的边境地区紧急修建反坦克壕,以防重演闪电战入侵。#叙利亚局势# ​​​

http://m.weibo.cn/status/5110171806204603?

信源微博:南海的浪涛

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看以色列进不进大马士革吧
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别说公审了,行刑队也没有,也没人请示头目。一两个拿枪的匪徒开车乱逛,就敢当街处刑,不可能有什么正经杀人理由。纯粹是因为大多数人包括地方实力派还处于恐惧状态,不敢轻易抵抗或报复,这是不可持续的。等发生几个标志性事件,知道这些匪帮其实是一盘散沙。那时就会有人自发把落单匪徒吊路灯了。干得漂亮些,说不定还不会有人追查。
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伊拉克军队开始在与叙利亚交界的边境地区紧急修建反坦克壕,以防重演闪电战入侵。#叙利亚局势# ​​​

h ...

想不到现在的伊拉克倒是最正常的一个
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fsdragontree 发表于 2024-12-10 09:52
HTS战斗力只能说比FSA和SNA这种纯傀儡军强点,不能和真主党比,而且关键是人家根本就没有抵抗意志,看到 ...

朱大帅进大马士革才几天hts大概率还在跑马圈地呢。德鲁兹人暂时控制大马士革有可能,但是叙利亚吃鸡启动之后,赢家不拿大马士革是开啥玩笑呢
idf自己都没吹进军大马士革的NB呢,操心抵抗意志至少也得等idf真的发兵再说

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#叙利亚局势最新情况# 25师带着被解救的阿勒颇军事学院的学生一起撤到了真主党控制区 ​​​

信源微博:灰色魔毯Enterprise-NorthPoint

“种子”

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今天一些伊拉克人建议他们的政府赶紧把监狱里关押的暴恐突突了,他们被叙利亚发生的事情刺激到了。 ​​​

信源微博:沙姆雄狮_EL

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土鸡和SNA开始从和平之泉行动区出发,准备夹击夺取叙利亚边境科巴尼

http://m.weibo.cn/status/5110176319537333?

信源微博:海岸猎人水相

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真是13年,如一梦
没想到美国大统领任期还没正式结束,叙利亚就已经碎成这样了
其实局座那个视频看着有些让人伤感啊,曾经也是中东一支劲旅,追求地面决战的准备,如今国破家亡,满地草芥刍狗

我说叙利亚那些恨阿萨德的人,你可以恨阿萨德,但为一时的“情绪价值”彻底葬送自己的未来真的值得么,难道真的是大家一起“公平”的死就大愿得偿了?

----发送自 STAGE1 App for Android.
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IRGC media lament ‘opening of Syrian Pandora’s box’
**革命卫队媒体哀叹“打开了叙利亚的潘多拉魔盒”



The story: The end of Bashar al-Assad’s rule in Syria has brought with it a slew of uncertainties that are raising concerns in Iran. Some Iranians worry about pervasive instability while others argue for the need to strengthen relations with China to weather a coming storm. This comes as Sunni rebels appear to be honoring a reported arrangement with Iran to avoid targeting Shiite holy sites, including a major shrine in Damascus.
故事:巴沙尔·阿萨德 (Bashar al-Assad) 在叙利亚的统治结束带来了一系列不确定性,这些不确定性引起了伊朗的担忧。一些伊朗人担心普遍的不稳定,而另一些人则认为有必要加强与中国的关系,以抵御即将到来的风暴。与此同时,逊尼派叛军似乎正在履行与伊朗的协议,以避免以什叶派圣地为目标,包括大马士革的一座主要圣地。

Meanwhile, as the Islamic Republic’s “forward defense” doctrine is being questioned, there are calls for the nuclear program to be weaponized—a once-taboo suggestion that has increasingly become mainstream in recent years.
与此同时,随着**共和国的“前沿防御”理论受到质疑,有人呼吁将核计划武器化——这一曾经是禁忌的建议,近年来已日益成为主流。

The coverage: The collapse of Assad’s government at the hands of Sunni rebels has deprived Iran of its only state ally in the ‘Axis of Resistance’ and thrust Syria into a world of uncertainty.
覆盖范围:阿萨德政府在逊尼派叛军手中垮台,使伊朗失去了在“抵抗轴心”中唯一的国家盟友,并将叙利亚推入了一个充满不确定性的世界。

Javan newspaper, which is affiliated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), on Dec. 9 lamented the “opening of the Syrian Pandora’s box.” The outlet argued that “all kinds of unknown calamities and misfortunes” could result from the rebel takeover.
隶属于**革命卫队 (IRGC) 的 Javan 报纸于 12 月 9 日哀叹“叙利亚潘多拉的盒子打开了”。该媒体认为,叛军接管可能会导致“各种未知的灾难和不幸”。

Kayhan daily, whose chief editor is appointed by Iran’s supreme leader, charged that “terrorists” were doing the bidding of the US and Israel, referring to the Syrian opposition. It further claimed that Assad’s downfall spelled “the beginning of America’s rule” over Syria.
由伊朗最高领导人任命的主编 Kayhan 日报指责“**”正在听命于美国和以色列,指的是叙利亚反对派。它进一步声称,阿萨德的倒台意味着美国对叙利亚“统治的开始”。

The conservative Khorasan paper—notably referring to the Assad dynasty as “authoritarian rulers”—said it was “unlikely” that Syria would see “real freedom and democracy any time soon.”
保守的呼罗珊报纸——特别是将阿萨德王朝称为“独裁统治者”——表示叙利亚“不太可能”在短期内看到“真正的自由和民主”。

In separate articles, Khorasan also argued that Turkey stood to benefit the most from developments in Syria. It suggested that not only has Turkey emerged as a regional heavyweight, but that exerting control over Syria helps Ankara establish key transit corridors.
在另一篇文章中,呼罗珊还认为,土耳其将从叙利亚的事态发展中受益最大。它表明,土耳其不仅已成为该地区的重量级国家,而且对叙利亚的控制有助于安卡拉建立关键的过境走廊。
The semi-official Mehr News Agency on Dec. 9 alleged that Iran had in fact warned Assad about rebel activity weeks before the Sunni Islamist Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham (HTS) led a lightning offensive in late November. However, the ousted Syrian leader is claimed to have dismissed the concerns and refused Iranian aid.
半官方的梅尔通讯社(Mehr News Agency)12月9日称,伊朗实际上在逊尼派**主义者沙姆解放组织(HTS)于11月下旬发动闪电攻势的几周前就已经警告过阿萨德有关叛乱活动的警告。然而,据称这位被赶下台的叙利亚领导人消除了这些担忧并拒绝了伊朗的援助。

Mehr asserted that a delegation of IRGC military advisors that had traveled to Damascus last month to warn Assad noticed significant public dissatisfaction with the longtime Syrian president.
梅尔声称,上个月前往大马士革警告阿萨德的**革命卫队军事顾问代表团注意到公众对这位长期担任叙利亚总统的强烈不满。

“Unfortunately,” the news agency said, Assad “formally” told the Iranian delegation that he was “unable to address” people’s problems.
该通讯社称,“不幸的是”,阿萨德“正式”告诉伊朗代表团,他“无法解决”人们的问题。

Mehr charged that some Arab states had swayed Assad to distance himself from Iran and the ‘Axis of Resistance’ in exchange for their help in rebuilding Syria’s economy. This, the news agency argued, led to his eventual downfall. “With Syria temporarily leaving the ‘Axis of Resistance’, there are now doubts over the connection between the various parties of the [Resistance] Front,” Mehr added.
梅尔指责一些阿拉伯国家说服阿萨德与伊朗和“抵抗轴心”保持距离,以换取他们帮助重建叙利亚经济。该通讯社认为,这导致了他的最终垮台。“随着叙利亚暂时离开'抵抗轴心',现在人们对 [抵抗] 阵线各党派之间的联系产生了怀疑,”梅尔补充道。


With the ‘Axis of Resistance’ under rising pressure, opinions vary on Iran’s next steps.
随着“抵抗轴心”承受着越来越大的压力,人们对伊朗的下一步行动众说纷纭。

Khorasan newspaper argued that the Islamic Republic needs to “immediately prioritize” enhancing relations with China and look for alternative routes to rearm Hezbollah in Lebanon.
呼罗珊报认为,**共和国需要“立即优先考虑”加强与中国的关系,并寻找替代途径来重新武装黎巴嫩的真主党。

Hardline lawmaker Ahmad Naderi suggested that Iran should first look to “revive the wounded ‘Axis of Resistance’” and then “test a nuclear bomb.”
强硬派议员艾哈迈德·纳德里(Ahmad Naderi)建议伊朗应该首先考虑“重振受伤的'抵抗轴心'”,然后“试验核弹”。
When HTS seized Damascus on Dec. 8, Iranian state television quoted the former Al-Qaida affiliate as saying that Shiite religious sites would not be harmed. That line of reasoning echoed reports of an understanding having been reached between the Sunni Islamists and Iran’s Quds Force.
当HTS于12月8日占领大马士革时,伊朗国家电视台援引前**附属机构的话说,什叶派宗教场所不会受到伤害。这种推理方式与逊尼派**主义者和伊朗圣城旅之间达成谅解的报道相呼应。

On the same day, Syrian Shiite cleric Ayman Al-Ahmad appeared at the empty shrine of Sayyidah Zainab to urge Iraqi leaders—not Iran—to “pressure influential regional countries—especially Qatar, Turkey and others—for guarantees.” Widely circulated on social media, the video also featured Ahmad proposing “deploying international forces to protect Shiites and their sanctities from anything they may be exposed to,” emphasizing “widespread fear and insecurity among the population.”
同一天,叙利亚什叶派神职人员艾曼·艾哈迈德(Ayman Al-Ahmad)出现在空荡荡的赛义达·扎伊纳布(Sayyidah Zainab)圣地,敦促伊拉克领导人——而不是伊朗——“向有影响力的地区国家——特别是卡塔尔、土耳其和其他国家——施压,要求其提供保证”。该视频在社交媒体上广泛流传,艾哈迈德还提议“部署国际部队,保护什叶派及其圣地免受他们可能接触到的任何东西”,强调“民众中普遍的恐惧和不安全”。

But the following day, on Dec. 9, videos on social media and Iranian state-linked outlets showed worshipers praying at the shrine of Sayyidah Zainab—a major Shiite pilgrimage site—without encountering any issues.
但第二天,即 12 月 9 日,社交媒体和伊朗官方媒体上的视频显示,信徒们在什叶派主要朝圣地赛义达·扎伊纳布 (Sayyidah Zainab) 的圣地祈祷,没有遇到任何问题。
The context/analysis: There have been growing calls in Iran in recent years, particularly over the past several months, to weaponize the nuclear program.
背景/分析:近年来,特别是过去几个月,伊朗国内要求将核计划武器化的呼声越来越高。

Iran has been warning that it could reconsider its self-imposed ban on nuclear weapons if it faces an existential threat.
伊朗一直警告说,如果面临生存威胁,它可能会重新考虑其自行实施的核武器禁令。

With the ‘Axis of Resistance’ weakened and Iran’s “forward defense” doctrine now in jeopardy after the end of Assad’s rule, calls to develop a nuclear deterrent will likely only grow.
随着“抵抗轴心”的削弱,以及伊朗的“前沿防御”理论在阿萨德统治结束后处于危险之中,发展核威慑的呼声可能只会越来越高。

Syria is essential to Iran’s “forward defense” strategy and has served as a staging ground to transfer weapons to regional allies, particularly Lebanese Hezbollah.
叙利亚对伊朗的“前沿防御”战略至关重要,并一直是向地区盟友,特别是黎巴嫩真主党转移武器的集结地。

HTS emerged in the early years of the Syrian civil war and was founded by Abu Muhammad Al-Jolani.
HTS 出现在叙利亚内战的早期,由 Abu Muhammad Al-Jolani 创立。

Jolani joined Al-Qaida in Iraq in the 2000s, where he fought US-led forces. He was dispatched to Syria when the civil war broke out to set up the Nusrah Front as Al-Qaida’s Syrian branch.
乔拉尼于 2000 年代加入伊拉克**,在那里他与美国领导的部队作战。内战爆发时,他被派往叙利亚,建立努斯拉阵线(Nusrah Front),作为**在叙利亚的分支。

Born Ahmed Al-Sharaa, Jolani refused to merge with the Islamic State group (IS) in 2013. In 2016, he severed ties with Al-Qaida and eventually joined forces with other Syrian rebel groups to establish HTS in 2017.
Jolani 原名 Ahmed Al-Sharaa,于 2013 年拒绝与**国组织 (IS) 合并。2016 年,他与**断绝了关系,并最终与其他叙利亚叛乱组织联手,于 2017 年建立了 HTS。

HTS has tried to rebrand itself and move away from its militant past. However, the group and its leader remain designated as terrorists by the US and a 10M USD bounty on Jolani remains in place.
HTS 试图重塑自己的品牌并摆脱其激进的过去。然而,该组织及其领导人仍被美国认定为**,对 Jolani 的 10M 美元赏金仍然存在。
The future: Iran has difficult decisions to make in the coming months, especially with Donald Trump returning to the White House.
未来:伊朗在未来几个月要做出艰难的决定,尤其是在唐纳德·**重返白宫的情况下。

While some deem it necessary, developing a nuclear deterrent is a risky move that would likely result in Israeli, and possibly American, strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities. Against this backdrop, Tehran much prefers a deal with Washington that it can sell as a victory at home.
虽然有些人认为这是必要的,但发展核威慑是一个冒险的举动,可能会导致以色列,甚至美国对伊朗的核设施进行打击。在这种背景下,德黑兰更愿意与华盛顿达成协议,以便在国内将其作为胜利进行推销。

Without its Syrian ally and with access to Hezbollah made more difficult by the situation in Lebanon, Iran may further focus its energy on protecting its influence in neighboring Iraq. Having said that, such a path would have been likely in any scenario given the expected Iraqi parliamentary elections next year—which could prove challenging for Tehran’s allies.
没有了叙利亚盟友,而且黎巴嫩局势使伊朗更难接近真主党,伊朗可能会进一步集中精力保护其在邻国伊拉克的影响力。话虽如此,考虑到预计明年的伊拉克议会选举,这样的道路在任何情况下都是可能的——这对德黑兰的盟友来说可能是一个挑战。
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发表于 2024-12-10 23:37 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
叙利亚消息源:反政府极端武装在拉塔基亚、霍姆斯和大马士革大规模搜捕并处决藏匿的负伤叙利亚政府军军人。在霍姆斯、哈马和西海岸等叙利亚中部地区,极端武装人员正在大规模展开就地处决,并且有绑架**妇女的情况发生。

#烽火问鼎计划##叙利亚##以色列巴勒斯坦冲突# ​​​

信源微博:勇往直前FA岚熙

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消失的水晶 发表于 2024-12-10 23:31
真是13年,如一梦
没想到美国大统领任期还没正式结束,叙利亚就已经碎成这样了
其实局座那个视频看着有些让 ...

他们未必有多恨阿萨德,只是想找个人为自己的不幸负责而已,而且现在叙利亚不是在忙着杀人,就是忙着被杀以及忙着不被杀

没什么时间思考这个问题

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发表于 2024-12-10 23:45 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
叙利亚消息源:反政府极端武装在大马士革和郊外、塔尔图斯、拉塔基亚和霍姆斯地区宣布宵禁,从当地当天晚9点持续到第二天早5点。

信源微博:勇往直前FA岚熙

“只有图”

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发表于 2024-12-10 23:47 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
🇸🇾⚡️- 叙利亚国民军内部的反 HTS 极端组织 Maghawir al-Sham(前身为 Ahrar al-Sham)对哈马省南部、霍姆斯省北部一座城镇的阿拉维派进行报复。

http://t.cn/A6mjD5vX ​​​

信源微博:海岸猎人水相

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发表于 2024-12-10 23:50 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
鲜血秋叶 发表于 2024-12-10 22:42
我没站鹅乌啊,这楼里不是还有人心心念念鹅的海军基地么,我只是提醒他们那肯定得用巴沙尔的命来换

—— ...

不是,你为啥觉得巴沙尔的命现在很值钱一样
哪个反对派会拿巴沙尔这种和平交权的总统当做一项条件来给毛子提啊。
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本帖最后由 天空塔书记官 于 2024-12-11 00:12 编辑

“ 现在洪水已经毁灭了无数的村庄,他们聚在一起祈祷,像温驯的羊,流着泪,哭诉着 ' 祂难道真的已经抛弃我们了 ? ' ”



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戏谑二次元 发表于 2024-12-10 23:50
不是,你为啥觉得巴沙尔的命现在很值钱一样
哪个反对派会拿巴沙尔这种和平交权的总统当做一项条件来给毛 ...

第一次不会,等后面稳固下来可能就想要了,基地续住这事是随时可以打翻重谈的。(毛子没扶植势力与政府,纯续住)不过那都是几年后的事大家都关注别的事去了。
第一次应该不会谈到牙医,还没到他的轮次。
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🔻🇩🇪在阿萨德倒台的那一刻,德国 AfD 就毫不迟疑地梦想着将生活在该国的 90 万叙利亚人大规模驱逐出境。
🔻但这并不只是 AfD 的幻想——德国最大的政党基民盟似乎也急于响应这种情绪。
🔻6
🔻via redstreamnet 新闻
#叙利亚局势进展##叙利亚过渡政府正式接管权力#

​​​http://t.cn/A6mjDTYY

信源微博:包容万物恒河水

幽默,还是来看看三百多万土耳其人吧

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发表于 2024-12-10 23:57 | 显示全部楼层
照现在这个形式,未来几年还有没有叙利亚这个国家都不好说了

能有阿富汗现在的结局可能都算好了
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windtrack_qh 发表于 2024-12-10 23:57
照现在这个形式,未来几年还有没有叙利亚这个国家都不好说了

能有阿富汗现在的结局可能都算好了 ...

阿塔边上好歹还有个体面人,叙利亚就算了吧
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发表于 2024-12-11 00:08 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
代尔祖尔军事委员会宣布脱离 SDF 加入叙利亚自由军。

http://t.cn/A6mjFi7M

信源微博:海岸猎人水相 ​​​

这位更是墙头草中的墙头草

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发表于 2024-12-11 00:09 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
叙利亚离阿塔少说还少二十年吧……


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