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[新番] BanG Dream! Ave Mujica「颂乐人偶」2025年1月(第一集剧透注意)

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发表于 2024-12-21 03:43 | 显示全部楼层
感覺也沒透露什麼,就說了前三話睦會爆,然後說故事寫得比mygo更誇張

empathetic first-person gimmick swapped out for Mutsumi's psychologically breaking hallucinations. If you've ever wanted to see a traumatically depressed rhythm guitarist imagine a creepy doll talking to her like the Green Goblin mask, well then do I have the mobile game tie-in anime for you!

感覺這人形容都很誇張,還是等日本人repo更適合
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发表于 2024-12-21 03:48 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
差不多把前三话全爆了吧,初华和海玲没戏份?预告的对峙可能是第二集最后的场景
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发表于 2024-12-21 03:52 | 显示全部楼层
紫吹兰 发表于 2024-12-21 02:47
In that aforementioned conversation with It's MyGO!!!!!, the third episode functions as a twisted mi ...

幫你補完一下後面的部分

In that aforementioned conversation with It's MyGO!!!!!, the third episode functions as a twisted mirror of that anime's third episode, which focused on Tomori's past, just with the somber, empathetic first-person gimmick swapped out for Mutsumi's psychologically breaking hallucinations.

只是說mygo的第三話換了視角提到了燈的過去,大概是想說mujica裡也會有睦視角講她過去吧
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发表于 2024-12-21 03:53 | 显示全部楼层
姜饼人 发表于 2024-12-21 03:48
差不多把前三话全爆了吧,初华和海玲没戏份?预告的对峙可能是第二集最后的场景 ...

這前3話基本就是睦回,完全沒看到提睦和祥子以外的人
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发表于 2024-12-21 03:58 | 显示全部楼层
御幸一也 发表于 2024-12-21 03:53
這前3話基本就是睦回,完全沒看到提睦和祥子以外的人

是的,我看完也觉得老外形容太夸张了不过鬼佬那脑子……反正这帮人能懂东亚人细腻心理纠结心态就见鬼了
像是形容祥子,高冷pua女霸道总裁那味都来了,用gaslight这词不知道怎么想的
然后睦那段,老外用了个“绿魔面具”来形容,见鬼了wsd肯定不敢给睦上双重人格的设定
不过前三话如果都是睦祥的话太稳了,后续睦问题也由祥子亲自解决
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发表于 2024-12-21 04:00 | 显示全部楼层
指的是初华和海铃目前还没有更深入的表现吧(比如回忆杀或者隐藏一面的表现),不是完全没戏份
倒是说了第三集可能和灯那次类似,但加入了很多幻觉类的演出,估计就是睦从小到大的回忆杀搭配内心世界娃娃演出之类的
这个人评价睦祥的过去比较老套,那睦的问题就是最容易猜中的父母逼着她学演戏进演艺圈之类的内容了
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发表于 2024-12-21 04:01 | 显示全部楼层
akiomn 发表于 2024-12-21 03:58
是的,我看完也觉得老外形容太夸张了不过鬼佬那脑子……反正这帮人能懂东亚人细腻心理纠结心态就见鬼了
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看到他用gaslight這詞已經不想繼續看了,但實在沒repo可啃還是看一下
要從鬼佬的誇張形容裡摳出有效情報還是有點麻煩,還是等下週日本人repo吧(
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发表于 2024-12-21 04:05 | 显示全部楼层
NODY 发表于 2024-12-21 04:00
指的是初华和海铃目前还没有更深入的表现吧(比如回忆杀或者隐藏一面的表现),不是完全没戏份
倒是说了第 ...

確實,可能說的有點誤解,反正就是前三話的主角是睦和祥子,鬼佬repo基本沒提到其他人,但肯定不是完全沒戲份,而且第一話大家都看了是有其他人戲份的(
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发表于 2024-12-21 04:10 | 显示全部楼层
御幸一也 发表于 2024-12-21 04:05
確實,可能說的有點誤解,反正就是前三話的主角是睦和祥子,鬼佬repo基本沒提到其他人,但肯定不是完全沒 ...

剧情套路些也好,省的太奇葩太沉重了。比如祥子过去丧母本来就很有可能,毕竟狗篇完全没提到祥子母亲,丧母概率很大,结果第一集真是丧母
那么睦作为星二代被父母压力去学演戏的剧情套路是完全可能的,这种假药在鸡播出前也有
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发表于 2024-12-21 04:16 | 显示全部楼层
星二代的父母壓力這個太典了反而感覺越來越真了
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发表于 2024-12-21 04:25 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
去日本看的鸡友希望可以泄露下2-3集的内容
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发表于 2024-12-21 04:32 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
要典就来个最典的,睦从小到大学的东西都是父母逼着学的,唯有吉他是自己想学的,祥子知道睦喜欢就买了个吉他送她当礼物,所以睦整天抱着吉他不撒手
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发表于 2024-12-21 08:01 | 显示全部楼层
突然发现当年go播出好像也是前三集连放,不过那个时候是大伙都可以看而不是脚盆鸡特供,希望母鸡卡是承袭狗制而不是承袭菜花吧
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发表于 2024-12-21 08:14 | 显示全部楼层
不过这鬼佬也是个打太极的宗师了,实际上剧透出来的差不多都是之前pv就能猜测出来的
最前面是睦线,睦心理有问题,娃娃都是和睦相关的,睦要爆了
大概有点用的是睦的过去挺套路?祥子的过去目前第一集看是挺套路的(不排除后期进祥子线了又涉及过去再更新一次)
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发表于 2024-12-21 08:16 | 显示全部楼层
扯了这么多相当于什么都没说
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发表于 2024-12-21 09:07 | 显示全部楼层
怎麼鬼佬的repo沒了
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发表于 2024-12-21 09:08 | 显示全部楼层
难道又又又又是临时工放错了吗
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发表于 2024-12-21 09:12 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
看了一下机翻感觉和路边的一个普通go友写的一样

—— 来自 鹅球 v3.3.92
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发表于 2024-12-21 11:21 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xwr 于 2024-12-21 13:50 编辑

ANN掐指一算发现还不到一月,赶紧下了前三集review

Ave Mujica - The Die is Cast - Episodes 1-3 Anime Review

Synopsis:  

Back in middle school, Sakiko Togawa lost everything. In a furious bid to take back control and make things right, she concocts a plan around assembling a masked band known as Ave Mujica, taking them to the greatest stage as quickly as possible. But bringing together this type of talent and chasing this kind of fame must come at a cost, and Sakiko's efforts start having adverse effects not just on her but on her bandmates as well. Guitarist Mutsumi starts to strain under the pressures of performance, and she probably won't be the only one to face the consequences of becoming one of Sakiko's dolls.

Review:  

Despite what some of its promotion might lead you to believe, Ave Mujica - The Die is Cast - is absolutely not accessible for BanG Dream! newcomers. The preceding series It's MyGO!!!!! is required reading for kick-off context on this dark group of distressed theater kids and how they came together to form this bizarre fusion of musical performance and stage play. Parts of these first three episodes make clear that the story will continue covering the MyGO!!!!! girls to some degree (much as the Ave Mujica characters figured into the formative MyGO!!!!! band's story). As it goes on, it becomes clear that Ave Mujica exists in conversation with It's MyGO!!!!!, so you will almost certainly be lost for context if you just jump into this one.

Ave Mujica does deliver on, however, is the vibes and spectacle promised that would prompt people to want to check out this anime in the first place. "Ave Mujica does not undersell," declares band leader Sakiko, and she friggin' means it. If you thought the members of MyGO!!!!! were prone to sometimes-overplayed melodrama, just wait until you get a load of these extremely unhealthy girls! Just in these first few episodes, the Ave Mujica anime makes some bold choices in terms of story direction and presentation that, if not too far apart from It's MyGO!!!!!, might have been unheard of in prior BanG Dream! entries.

The sometimes sudden shifts in status quo are some thus-far strong ideas underpinning things. Apart from the physical masks that defined their debut performance, it quickly becomes clear that the members of Ave Mujica are wearing masks of the old metaphorical variety as well. Nyamu continues to be the most intriguing to me, mostly because she's the most entertaining. She's a shameless mercenary performer willing to use everyone she has even the slightest connection to as a stepping stone to her own success. I'm just waiting for her chipper, trollish mask to slip and show some raw ugliness beneath. Sakiko, for her part, turns out to have a lot she's been dealing with that set her on this path, and she is now trying her hardest to maintain at least the illusion of control. A huge part of the appeal going into Ave Mujica was the potential to watch Sakiko's desperate attempts to gaslight, gatekeep, and girlboss her demons away. And while that hasn't been as focused on as I expected, it's still an element that's felt in her and her interactions with others.

The real breakout star of these first three episodes is, maybe surprisingly, Mutsumi. The sad little green-haired girl has always been pointedly intrigued by what exactly her issues are. As Sakiko's real reasons for quitting CRYCHIC are finally detailed in this anime's opening episode, the next ones focusing on Mutsumi dive into why she claimed never to enjoy being in the band. What's given isn't necessarily the most original answer, but it is understandable and arrestingly presented with some of the more overt, illusory visual metaphors I've seen this franchise cut loose and deploy. In that aforementioned conversation with It's MyGO!!!!!, the third episode functions as a twisted mirror of that anime's third episode, which focused on Tomori's past, just with the somber, empathetic first-person gimmick swapped out for Mutsumi's psychologically breaking hallucinations. If you've ever wanted to see a traumatically depressed rhythm guitarist imagine a creepy doll talking to her like the Green Goblin mask, well then do I have the mobile game tie-in anime for you!

That ostentatious approach extends to all of Ave Mujica so far, from its shamelessly melodramatic OP and ED to the similarly toned concert scenes. That style and accompanying music are the best assets of the series, lending it its own identity even as it's necessarily carrying over directly from It's MyGO!!!!! It's maybe too much at times. Some of the concert skits in the first episode can feel like they're toeing the line between dramatic flavor and pure padding—though this levels off by the end of the first episode and into the next two as the skits get more integrated into the story itself. The biggest drawback of the musical numbers thus far is a frustratingly consistent one for this franchise: no subtitles for the songs.

SANZIGEN's ability to render facial expressions in their characters hasn't missed a beat from the dramatic highs they hit in the preceding show, and their CGI character work continues to improve. That's noticeable in characters carried by some capricious personality shifts like Mutsumi. It works in tandem with the aforementioned visual indulgences to make it feel like the studio is continuing to push what they can do with this franchise and their style. It's probably not going to win over those audience members for whom It's MyGO!!!!! already came off too melodramatic, but if this is what you enjoyed about that series, and especially the initial shock of Ave Mujica's reveal at the end of that season, you'll find something to like here.

That's the best praise I can pay Ave Mujica at this stage. Some of the revealed backstories for characters like Sakiko and Mutsumi sand down their edges or ring a bit cliche, but they're still bookended by some wild and heavy presentation of the story itself and couched in the theater-kid goth-rock the show knows we're all here for. I'm hoping it can keep this up with some proper escalation involving the other characters; Uika and Umiri haven't really done anything yet, and I need to see what else Nyamu gets up to. Hopefully, Ave Mujica can match or surpass It's MyGO!!!!!'s screaming highs and downward-spiraling lows.

Grade:  
Overall : B+
Story : B
Animation : A
Art : A
Music : A
+ Even more overly melodramatic than It's MyGO!!!!!, story hits the ground running, strong character and performance animation
− Even more overly melodramatic than It's MyGO!!!!!, and that might not necessarily be a good thing, writing of some character backstories and motivations feels cliche at this stage, will leave any new viewers in the dust


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发表于 2024-12-21 11:43 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
这也能草台啊
syl,这评价出来又要复读祥子暴君了
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发表于 2024-12-21 11:46 | 显示全部楼层
真能暴君吗
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发表于 2024-12-21 11:46 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
偷跑这么多次,感觉就是故意泄露在老外那边炒热度的,wsd是真喜欢鬼佬
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发表于 2024-12-21 11:47 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
wsd:老中是工作,鬼佬是生活
正经repo还是得看日本的吧,鬼佬的关注点不一样的
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发表于 2024-12-21 11:55 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
A huge part of the appeal going into Ave Mujica was the potential to watch Sakiko's desperate attempts to gaslight, gatekeep, and girlboss her demons away. And while that hasn't been as focused on as I expected, it's still an element that's felt in her and her interactions with others.
说反了,这里鬼佬是想看暴君小祥但是没看到有点失望,只表现出来部分要素反而软糯小祥估计是成真了
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发表于 2024-12-21 11:56 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
祥1彻底覆灭 扛起失去意识成年男人的力量去哪了
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发表于 2024-12-21 12:04 | 显示全部楼层
别急 op那样的箱1肯定在后期
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发表于 2024-12-21 12:17 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2024-12-21 12:27 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 AveMujica 于 2024-12-21 12:29 编辑

Ave Mujica Instrument Box系列





https://x.com/bangdream_en/status/1869789793397420291

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发表于 2024-12-21 12:45 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
谨慎看好万一下一个蝈蝈

—— 来自 鹅球 v3.1.88.3-alpha
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发表于 2024-12-21 13:03 | 显示全部楼层
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可以确定吗
丰川祥子戴面具是为了挡住脸上那两坨红晕的

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发表于 2024-12-21 13:06 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
Gandalf 发表于 2024-12-21 13:45
谨慎看好万一下一个蝈蝈

—— 来自 鹅球 v3.1.88.3-alpha

国家队是炖屎狗拿耗子的结果,而mujica基本是go的原班人马,而且制作周期十分余裕,下限是可以保证的,可能不如go但是不至于烂成国家队。
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参与人数 2战斗力 +2 收起 理由
阿萨德飞过去 + 1 不带面具确实有点太软糯了
好想看Mujica啊 + 1 太软糯了

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发表于 2024-12-21 13:47 | 显示全部楼层
xwr 发表于 2024-12-21 04:21
ANN掐手一算发现还不到一月,赶紧下了前三集review

Ave Mujica - The Die is Cast - Episodes 1-3 Anime R ...

这review用词还挺讲究的,有点艺术批评的味道,而且这总体评价可不低了。
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发表于 2024-12-21 13:51 | 显示全部楼层
这小圆脸……隔壁鹿目圆好歹还是五角方包呢。
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发表于 2024-12-21 14:03 | 显示全部楼层
怎么有人戴面具是为了挡红晕啊
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发表于 2024-12-21 14:06 | 显示全部楼层
不戴面具就一点气势都没有了,忍不住想rua
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发表于 2024-12-21 14:23 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
祥子这脸真的太可爱了
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发表于 2024-12-21 14:37 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
按老外的说法 可能祥子是有些抗拒的展现暴君一面
那可以贷款下 祥子后面完全暴君化吧
祥1有希望的
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发表于 2024-12-21 14:39 | 显示全部楼层
暴君化不了一点,就cm里那缩在初华后面的样,明显被大猫怼的理亏,如果是祥子有理直接摆章鱼臭脸了
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发表于 2024-12-21 14:57 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
这老外说了半天等于没说,无非点了一下第三集睦头人要爆,但是所有人都知道木头人要爆
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