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去4ch围观了一下，还是很欢乐的，摘个几条：点击看鬼佬发病
一、玩梗
>the sopa du monkima meme became real
玛猴汤的meme成真啦！
（注： monkima玛猴，4ch整的马女士猴化形象，见下；sopa du monkima恶搞墨西哥菜里的猴子肉汤）
>Sopa de Makima , Uma delícia
玛奇玛汤，口味绝赞！
>what's the huge announcement? new manga?
>>Sopa de Monkima recipe.
下周的重大发表是什么？新漫画吗？
玛猴汤的食谱。
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It's going to be a CSM-themed bar where you can eat / drink various Makima-related menus.>>212436833
会有一家电锯人主题餐厅，在这里你可以吃到/喝到各种与玛奇玛有关的美食。
>Making the manga not in hopes that it will one day make it into an anime adaptation but to establish a successful restaurant business
Power move
画个漫画不是为了有朝一日被改编成动画，而是开一家成功的餐馆。
更上一层楼
>Fatji gets all the free food he wants
肥宅阿树就能想吃就吃了
>The signs were all there.
早有迹象（配图：小春妹妹各种关于吃吃吃的推文）
二、喷烂尾和被回喷
you people are in denial
manga went from generic shonen slice of life with clear progressive goal of beating the bad guy (you were reading it for this) to some incomprehensible 180 gibberish (you are now pretending you were reading it for this)
truly sad!
你们这些人就否认吧。这本漫画一开始只是普通的少年漫日常，设立了一个明确的剧情方向：打败一个大坏蛋（你们也就是为了这个走向看它的）。现在它180°大转弯，全是不能理解的鬼扯（你们在假装是为了看这个结尾吧）。
真可悲啊！
>I was reading it to see Denji and Makima being together in the end and I got what I wanted, just with a lot more spice
我只是为了看到电次和玛奇玛结尾在一起，而且我也看到我想看的，只是被加了点料。
>he expected a slice of life with a clear progressive goal from the author of fire punch
他期待《炎拳》作者画有明确剧情走向的日常番
>trump lost.
ykw你都输了
>Ok Donald, get off 4chan
好吧，唐纳德，滚粗4chan！
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We are at the point where people suck fujimoto’s dick so hard that they’re impressed at him planning something 3 chapters ahead of time.
读者太能吹捧藤本了，一见他提前构思了3话就觉得厉害得不行了。
>Honestly it's quite an achievement for him
实际上，这对他来说确实是一个成就了。
>keep seething, i had a really good trainwreck fun ride, and objectively
my fun > your opinion
你就气吧，我看着烂漫画看得很开心，而且客观地说：
我的快乐>你的意见
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alright shounenbrains, lets say it continues. what would happen after makima, the main antagonist, dies.
does he have adventures in hell. fighthing the horsemen, fucking power, fighting the weapon devils (again) and then what.
tournament arc in heaven. then its revealed hes csm jesus and becomes the messiah.
then what, he goes back to living in nipland with his sisterwife?
do you retards really want everyrhing to be samurai flamenco but not a parody
好了，你们这些满脑子少年漫的家伙。让我们假设这个故事在大反派马女士死了之后得继续往下讲：
电次在地狱中历险，打败了人马（地狱恶魔），上了帕瓦，再次和武器恶魔搏斗，然后再到天堂篇打一波，接着说明电次是电锯人-耶稣，成了救世主。然后呢，他回到了日本，和他的妹妹/老婆生活了下去。
你们这些白痴真的想要一个非恶搞版的《武士弗拉明戈》吗？
三、讨论食人剧情
Makima is not human nor even technically a woman. I assume that is the only reason WSJ even allowed this to be published. It says more about Fujimoto though that he would think to write this, I know mangaka are maniacs but I feel like someone should keep an eye on the guy this is borderline serial killer stuff.
玛奇玛理论上不是人，更算不上一个女人。我认为这是Jump让这漫画能够被刊登的唯一理由。藤本画的时候可能没多想，但这能说明很多问题了。我知道漫画家都有点疯狂，但我觉得得有人盯住藤本这家伙。这漫画已经接近底线了，下一步就是连环杀手了。
>Are you baiting or just retarded? This is definitely not anywhere near crossing a line, WSJ has published things with shit like this plenty of times.
你在钓鱼还是就是纯傻叉？这漫画靠近哪条底线了？Jump出过好多类似于这种的玩意。
>>No its definitely crossing some lines, its one thing to have a serial killer in your story. Its another to have your main character chop up and eat a woman onscreen. WSJ has never had a MC do something this depraved as far as I know.
不，这漫画绝对越界了，在你的故事里写个连环杀手是一回事，但让你的主角当着读者的面切碎并吃了一个女人是另一回事。据我所知，Jump从来没让主角干过这么变态的事。
>its one thing to have a serial killer in your story. Its another to have your main character chop up and eat a woman onscreen
Post the panel where this happened?
“在你的故事里写个连环杀手是一回事，但让你的主角当着读者的面切碎并吃了一个女人是另一回事”
在一个真发生过这种事情的版上说这话。
四、突然自爆
Guys, I need to confess. This is not a shitpost, I need to get this off my chest.
I've only been reading CSM to jerk off. I have a gore fetish, and the CSM girls (and some of the guys) turn me on. I only got on this train for cooming, as such, I've been actively derailing and shitting up these threads for my personal amusement since Day 10. Most recently, I've been spamming Monkimas every chance I get. But now that it's ending, I really feel bad about it in retrospect. For the longest time, I thought people liked CSM ironically, that you really didn't see it as some sort of masterpiece, that you were just reading it for the memes and madness. I suppose that was me projecting my view of it onto you. You guys really love manga, don't you? I'm sorry, and especially, I forward an apology to those of you who came here to sincerely discuss the story and its themes, only to be met with a "kino", "kafkaesque", or a monkima from my end. Personally, I still don't think CSM is mindblowing or anything, but I do respect those of you who love it with all sincerity. I'm gonna miss you guys.
兄弟们，我得坦白，我不是为了水贴，我必须得说点心里话了。
我看电锯人就是为了打飞机。我有guro方面的性癖，电锯人里的妹子（还有些男性角色）让我硬了。我和大家一起看漫画就是为了射的，我从10号起就在不停地水帖和歪楼，就是为了个人兴趣。最近，我一有机会就刷玛猴。但现在这一切结束了，回过头来一想，这确实很糟糕。在很长很长的时间里，我认为大家喜欢CSM就是为了反讽，你们并没当它回事，你们只是因为meme和故事的狂气读它的。我现在明白我把自己的想法投射到了你们身上。你们确实喜欢这部漫画，对吗？对不起，我尤其应该为来这个讨论串认知讨论故事情节和主题、却只看到了我刷“绝赞”、“像卡夫卡”、和玛猴的人道歉。就个人而言，我依然不认为CSM很赞或其他什么的，但我尊重你们这些真诚地喜爱它的人。我会想你们的。
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