合金装备V：幻痛 讨论帖 注意回复含剧透

哈罗

我的也发货了，明天应该能玩到，这种大规模的偷跑还真是少见……

yiraer

http://bbs.mgcn.com/read.php?tid=59383

这东西差点被我遗忘了。

没准最后真结局要靠这个，可能是个通往真结局的“钥匙”

qqcomcnhk

看了序章都知道绷带男的配音是包小强

----发送自 LGE Nexus 5,Android 5.0.1

freedomz

shimotsuki14 发表于 2015-8-27 22:58
好像是天津的……下午6点订的，说今晚发，刚看了下显示发货了，就是还没物流信息 ...

哦哦多谢，找了家广州的买了，也还没显示发货

yiraer

Geminize 发表于 2015-8-28 21:51
PS3欧版带日文配音吗

语音不清楚，但是带日文字幕。

战场原土豆

外国站上更新了从数据中提取的文本，包括确认了假BB是Medic等
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1098935&page=117
转自neogaf上thabtoUK：

V[C=17][L=gr]He's in no condition for plastic surgery.$[C=21][L=gr]Someone surely already knows he's awake.$[L=gr]He's in great danger - we must act now!$[C=21][L=gr]Prep for surgery!$[C=21][L=gr]This is ridiculous...!$[C=21]It's true. there are those who wish
you would have never woken up.$[C=21]You should be dead. But you're not. $The wheels are in motion. $Your enemies are everywhere.
We must alter your appearance immediately.$[C=21]Otherwise, I fear you won't leave this place alive.$[C=21]It's a wide open world out there, so there's
something we need to take care of first.$[C=21]This is you - as you've lived until this day.$[C=21]I'm going to change your appearance -
we've no other choice.
B.P.'s dropping!
XI'll handle the rest.
How's he doing?!
From here on out, $you're Big Boss.
What about him?!
X That's your name as of today.
I'm Big Boss, and you are, too...
XFrom here on, he's "Snake." $He believes it too.
XClear!
You have, too - $you've written your own history.
Intubate! Now!
XUse that bike. $It's tuned up and ready to go.
I'm going to change your appearance -
we've no other choice.
X My very own phantom, huh...
Thank you... my friend.
XHere.
Carry that with you, wherever you go.
XYou best change your face, too.
Clear!
Well, he's stabilized, $but it took too long...$he's in a coma.
XRight.
I cheated death, thanks to you.
XBoss, the whole world wants your head.
This story - this "legend" - it's ours.
XThis way, Boss. Hurry.
I am you, and you are me.
Everything feels alright?
Where we are, today? We built it.
XNo response! Hit him again!
[C=15]Don't you die on me, damn it!$[C=19]B.P.'s dropping!$[C=18]Intubate! Now!$[C=18]Cardiac arrest! He's in V-Fib !$[C=19]Clear!$[C=18]No response! Hit him again!$[C=19]Clear!$[C=15]How's he doing?!$[C=18]Well, he's stabilized, $but it took too long...$he's in a coma.$[C=15]What about him?!$[C=18]He... $He took some shrapnel - $to the head...
We can change the world - and with it, the future.
XThis one - $he'll take your place.
+U, ,P,
[C=16]This way, Boss. Hurry.$[C=16]Use that bike. $It's tuned up and ready to go.$[C=16]I'll handle the rest. $[C=16]Here.$[C=16] That's your name as of today.$[C=16]You best change your face, too.$[C=16]This one - $he'll take your place.$[C=16]From here on, he's "Snake." $He believes it too.$[C=13] My very own phantom, huh...$[C=16]Boss, the whole world wants your head.$[C=16]Don't worry. He can handle it. $Move now, quickly. $[C=13] Aren't you forgetting something?$[C=13]We'll meet again.$[C=16]Right.
[C=21]Very good. Now, let's remove these bandages.$[C=21]Your face has healed nicely. $To tell you the truth, these bandages
were more for your protection - $to hide you from those who want you dead.$[C=21]As of today, your name is Ahab. $Forget everything. Your name, your past.$[C=21]Everything feels alright?
Don't you die on me, damn it!
Cardiac arrest! He's in V-Fib !
Now do you remember?$Who you are?$What you were meant to do?
XWe'll meet again.
XDon't worry. He can handle it. $Move now, quickly.
I'm on your side!
X Aren't you forgetting something?
XGet on!
[C=21]Please try to relax. $There is plenty of time.$[C=21]I need to tell you something. $Please listen, and try not to panic.$[C=21]You've been in a coma for... quite some time.$[C=21]Yes yes, I know. You'd like to know how long...$[C=21]I'm afraid it's been $nine years.$[C=21]Damn it!$[C=21][L=gr]Nurse! $[L=gr]Nurse! $[L=gr]Nurse!$[C=21]Nurse!$[C=21]Calm down! $Calm down!$[C=21]Try not to panic!$[C=21][L=gr]Help me!$[C=21]Try not to panic.$[C=21]Now then...$[C=21]You'll be alright.$[C=21]There now.$[C=21]Just rest.
No... $He's the two of us. Together.
586w6
[C=12] $[C=39]No time for anesthetic. We have to open her now.$[C=13]Noooooooo!!$[C=39]Boss! $[C=13]Now do you remember?$Who you are?$What you were meant to do?$[C=13]I cheated death, thanks to you.$[C=13]And thanks to you, I've left my mark.$[C=13]You have, too - $you've written your own history.$[C=13]You're your own man.$[C=13]I'm Big Boss, and you are, too... $[C=13] No... $He's the two of us. Together.$[C=13]Where we are, today? We built it.$[C=13]This story - this "legend" - it's ours.$[C=13]We can change the world - and with it, the future.$[C=13]I am you, and you are me.$[C=13]Carry that with you, wherever you go. $[C=13]Thank you... my friend.$[C=13]From here on out, $you're Big Boss.
586w6

另外，

你们好奇怪

战场原土豆 发表于 2015-8-28 22:42
外国站上更新了从数据中提取的文本，包括确认了假BB是Medic等
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php ...

奇爱博士是宅控他娘，宅控上了他爹的第二个老婆

旺角卡门

头颅移植手术呀！把bb的头植入到医疗兵的身体。不知道大家看过90年的《darkman》没有。他的造型就是一个绷带男，通过3d打印皮肤可以成为任何人。

yiraer

从另一个角度讲，玩家成为了BB……小岛是想说这个？

战场原土豆

阿尔法瑞斯 发表于 2015-8-28 22:56
从提取的文件来看，ZERO为了保护BB，把医疗兵整容成BB的样子。但还是没法解释为什么医疗兵拥有BB级别的战斗 ...

http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-4756156-1-1.html的9楼提出了一个说法，不知是否当真

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1098935&page=117的5824楼列出了另两份文本，

里面提到某人对BB说，“$He's experienced all your missions on record,
and shares all your knowledge and experience.”

另外个人理解，PW里支线任务可以操作小兵，和BB相比除血条、武器熟练度外几乎没什么区别，那么小兵用成接近BB也不无可能。而序章里基本由Ishmael带领，并没有体现出多高的本领，当然可能有刚刚苏醒的原因

yiraer

据说是46的重头戏，C16=山猫，C13=真BB

Boss.$[C=16]How are you back on your feet so quickly?$[C=13] It's a non-smoking ward.$[C=16]Boss... $[C=13]If I listened to everything the doctors
said, I'd probably die in here.$[C=13]No point waking up after nine years for that.$[C=16]... Well, having you out of that
bed makes things a little easier.$[C=13]Bad news, huh?$[C=16]Things are looking worse.$[C=13]Go on.$[C=16]They found out. About you waking up.$[C=16]And the man on fire picked this time to wake up too.$[C=16]We'll have to move forward ahead of schedule.$[C=16]Miller already has the preparations underway.$[C=16]We'll have to wake up your "nei**or," too.$[C=13] So he's not- $He seems awake now.$[C=16]No - $well, he's not actively conscious yet at least.$[C=13]He was a doctor too.$[C=16]In his mind, that past no longer exists.$[C=16]Your past is his past now.$[C=16]He's going to be your phantom.$[C=16]Not some simple diversion - $he'll act as the new Big Boss.$[C=16]And the act isn't just for Cipher - $he'll be your face on the world stage.
Until the time comes for your resurgence. $[C=13]You make it sound easy.$[C=16]We've been busy over the last nine years.$[C=16]His altered state of consciousness has helped us im**t
powerful suggestions through induced hypnagogia. $He's experienced all your missions on record,
and shares all your knowledge and experience.$[C=16]To make him believe that he is the one true Big Boss.$[C=16]No one around him will doubt
that he's the Big Boss they know.$[C=16]So is he the real Big Boss, or a stand-in?
What does that mean to him? $Nothing. $[C=16]The human brain is capable of many illusions. $Of pain, of the future.$[C=16]What happens from here depends on his skill. $But you can vouch for that.$[C=13]He was always the best man we had. $But... $[C=16]Nine years ago, in that helicopter, he
threw himself between you and the blast. $[C=16]In that moment, the man you knew died...$[C=16]

He died protecting you, $and now, by becoming you, $he protects you again.$[C=16]This is just a detour in his
journey to Hell. And don't forget - $it's what he wanted. $[C=16]He's in his Dog Days now.$[C=13] $[C=16]It's not just him. $We'll be putting the people in
this hospital in the line of fire. $They'll be your shield, and a necessary
diversion. To buy us some time.$[C=13]And you?$[C=16]I'll be right by his side.$[C=13]Can you keep it up? $It's a hell of a lie.$[C=16]It won't be a lie. I won't know his secret either.$[C=13] $[C=16]I'll believe that he's the real Big Boss.
I'll have no conscious knowledge of you - $where's the lie in that?$[C=13]Self-hypnosis?$[C=16]It's nothing new in my line of work.
Manipulating memories... the past. $But that's not all.$[C=16]When the time is right, I need to
remember that you're the real Boss. $In the world, it's doublethink.$[C=13]In this year? $[C=16]Two plus two equals five.$[C=16]And I want you to do the same.$[C=13]Right - his bodyguard.$[C=16]Correct. $It won't be long before this hospital comes under attack.$[C=16]We'll wake him up right away, but he
won't be back to full health in time.$[C=16]You'll need to take him through his final paces.$[C=13]Yeah... $I want to see his face again.$[C=16]All right... John. $I've never forgotten you in these
nine years, but I have to forget you now.$[C=13]Adam, $I'm counting on you.

略黑啊，医院里的其他人是争取时间的，山猫催眠自己把那个BB当做真BB（原来MGS2之前就有前科）

你们好奇怪

https://mega.nz/#!95kniYDZ!rcAji ... VRnuiEXf8qaabmEY9xo

全文本 datamine，不用追剧透了，自己搜关键字就什么都知道了

yiraer

阿尔法瑞斯 发表于 2015-8-29 00:02
一个傻白甜被两个心机婊用完就扔的悲惨故事。

山猫说是那谁自愿的……

B.K.

不滋瓷!

shimotsuki14

唔……有没有人做了分支任务47
就是Extract the little sheep那个……任务完成究竟是什么条件？我把区域内敌人基本全送回去了，羊也找到了，一开始以为是把小羊送回基地，结果用了富尔顿告诉我任务失败被取消；读盘重来赶着羊绕圈跑，也没什么办法。


……难道要用基地开发的装动物的笼子……？
真是活见鬼，重开了一次结果用气球送走直接显示任务成功了……

bobosndr

如果没昏迷，这9年时间就不能用来跟SF肛正面？偏要花大量时间精力培养一个新人？还最好让新人解决SF，BB有这么怂吗？这叫洗白吗，明明越洗越黑啊。

wangyi_tt

妈呀，游戏史上最强医疗兵……

----发送自 STAGE1 App for Android.

xgyy1111

嗯，结果还是走BB战士随便造，魔童计划真可笑路线
顺便问一句，PC版原爆点要怎么慢步走？估计幻痛也是一样。主机是推一点点摇杆，键盘可没有按一点点这一说

xgyy1111

mr·骑士道 发表于 2015-8-29 02:10
用手柄玩可破。

要用手柄我早就买过主机版了，无非就是打枪瞄不准才又买的steam，难度瞬间下降一半

xgyy1111

mr·骑士道 发表于 2015-8-29 02:56
手柄打FPS打不准就没招了，这是天赋，不是靠多练习能解决的。

同意。以前受某些人的玩多了就会上手的蛊惑买了一堆联机FPS，大半年下来的结论就是钱白花了。除了见识到怎么被大部分手柄高手秒杀之外还发现了不少在我身边绕了三圈都打不中一枪的烂枪法的人，果然是天赋决定一切

Joseph.Fourier

阿尔法瑞斯 发表于 2015-8-28 22:56
从提取的文件来看，ZERO为了保护BB，把医疗兵整容成BB的样子。但还是没法解释为什么医疗兵拥有BB级别的战斗 ...

游戏里面可以操作的这个假的BB的能力都是A++，但是游戏里面士兵上限是S++，很多小兵的部分能力是S++。真的BB能力就应该是都是S++，真BB也许去弄MG2代里面那个基地了。

火之魂

那么一开始照片四个人上最右边的是谁，贴上直升机仓内后右边就卷起来看不到了

太书主

断了右手左脚，你人体炼成吗

xgyy1111

Joseph.Fourier 发表于 2015-8-29 09:49
游戏里面可以操作的这个假的BB的能力都是A++，但是游戏里面士兵上限是S++，很多小兵的部分能力是S++。真 ...

纯粹游戏设定问题，PW里BB就是全能力A，抓到的顶级士兵能力S

哈罗

刚打完序章，真是又臭又长又装逼，还好进入阿富汗后瞬间好玩了
话说正式版开场还是乖乖改回kojima production/a hideo kojima game了，这算是认错吗？233……

hootao

小岛秀夫在twitter强调这个游戏叫MGSV，并不承认这个游戏是MGS5