洛杉矶才几百万人口，只要把容积率提升25%，就完全足够搞防火带了
反正就是不搞，就是摊大饼
—— 来自 S1Fun
名居守 发表于 2025-1-12 22:20
来源：驻旧金山总领事馆经济商务处 2024-07-02 03:57
2023年加州名义GDP为38621.71亿美元，在全美各州排名 ...
重建回来带大量gdp，隔壁那个美国gdp哪来的贴纸有答案了
在gdp最高的加州，每年烧掉一堆富人区房子然后重建
lactone 发表于 2025-1-12 22:40
洛杉矶才几百万人口，只要把容积率提升25%，就完全足够搞防火带了
反正就是不搞，就是摊大饼
山区都是有钱阔佬的好房子，人家不会弄高容积率的房子，那是穷鬼才会住的
liquer 发表于 2025-1-12 16:44
我记得之前好像有人说过护林员有时候要挖隔离带把一片区域内累积得过多可燃物“可控燃烧”掉？不知道是那种 ...
挖是有挖隔离带，没挖隔离带这会我家估计已经是废墟了。但是风超级大的时候会把火吹过隔离带去……
我家附近我爹妈以前会登山的游步道附近已经全烧了。游步道全是矮矮的干干的灌木丛来着。一点就着。
去年这时候是雨超级大，我家那座山半山腰水太多，今年没雨就太干了。
afer 发表于 2025-1-10 00:09
美国政府的当务之急不是灭火，而是积极引导洛杉矶与大火共存。
首先，洛杉矶本来就是火灾多发地，这是自然 ...
The top priority of the U.S. government is not to extinguish fires, but to actively guide Los Angeles to coexist with wildfires.
First, Los Angeles is inherently a fire-prone area due to natural laws, and we must learn to accept this reality. It is unwise to obsess over firefighting and blindly believe in "man's triumph over nature."
Second, the harm caused by fires is not as severe as some fearmongers claim. Over the years, catastrophic fires like 9/11 have been extremely rare. Most fires, such as California wildfires, are relatively contained and cause less damage than incidents like the Las Vegas shooting. In fact, many fires are minor and go unnoticed unless reported by the media. There aren't as many major fires as people think—most are just small flames. There's no need to panic unnecessarily.
Third, while fires are indeed something to be cautious about, I don't oppose that. However, it's more important to be wary of those who exploit these situations to spread anxiety and fear. A friend in Los Angeles mentioned that the recent fire didn't harm anyone. Even a kindergarten field trip might result in more bumps and bruises than this fire did. So, let's keep things in perspective. Everyone gets a few bruises growing up. Do we really need to push firefighters to the brink of exhaustion, risking "overwork deaths," where more people die from overwork than from the fires themselves? That would be utterly absurd.
Fourth, from a scientific perspective, fires don't actually kill people. Although reports mention fatalities, these individuals didn't die from burning. They died in car accidents while fleeing, or from building collapses, stampedes, suffocation, or jumping from heights—but no one has ever died directly from being burned alive. If you don't believe me, look it up in research papers—can you find any cases of people dying from being burned alive?
Fifth, firefighting goes against science and logic. Think about it: no matter how much you fight fires, can you really prevent them from happening? I've never heard of a situation where constant firefighting stops fires altogether. No matter how hard you try, firefighting is always reactive, not preventive. It's not worth the massive expenditure of resources.
Sixth, the high cost of firefighting is not worth it and hinders economic development. When will people realize that money doesn't grow on trees, and goods don't magically appear on supermarket shelves? The economy needs to keep running. In the short term, large-scale firefighting consumes vast resources, leaving little for other urgent needs. Are we supposed to stop living our lives? In the long term, as long as firefighting continues, the area will remain in a "disaster state," preventing the restoration of normal economic and social order.
Seventh, if you let the dragon king sell umbrellas, the rain will never stop. Indiscriminate firefighting only enriches a group of vested interests.
Eighth, anyone who disagrees with this is a "firefighting enthusiast." If you love firefighting so much, why not cosplay as a firefighter? It's not illegal to put out fires at home. You can start a fire and then extinguish it yourself, pretending to be a firefighter. If you're really into it, I can even donate an unused fire extinguisher to you. If you enjoy the thrill of firefighting, grab a fire extinguisher and charge ahead yourself. Why bother making life harder for ordinary people? We just want to get back to our normal lives and make ends meet.
Ninth, long-term reliance on firefighting will lead to "firefighting debt." In the end, people will only know how to "wait, rely, and demand," without understanding the importance of self-reliance and resilience. Like flowers in a greenhouse, they won't be able to withstand even the slightest disaster. Remember, adversity strengthens a nation. Escaping problems won't solve them—only continuous effort and growth will.
In conclusion, coexisting with wildfires is the only way forward and the truly scientific approach.
love from deepseek
本帖最后由 wszweill 于 2025-1-12 14:03 编辑
lactone 发表于 2025-1-12 09:40
洛杉矶才几百万人口，只要把容积率提升25%，就完全足够搞防火带了
反正就是不搞，就是摊大饼
根本不是容积率的 事情，加州林区那么多，真让砍树肯定能砍出来。这次烧的都是城郊富人区，正经大豪斯，咋可能讲 容积率 问题是一帮富豪享受着林间别墅+环保卫士的b格，被烧还能 怨谁。今年以前谁敢在加州 提砍树，这帮富人肯定实名反对 等山火真烧起来了，就这两年动辄100kmh的妖风，市区内 隔离带也肯定不现实。
yang1820 发表于 2025-1-12 07:16
我朋友家小区的山头可以直击到你家那边的滚滚浓烟。从昨天至今天，直升机都在头顶上嗡嗡嗡地来回穿梭。看 ...
我家那头的火渐渐控制住了！奇迹啊！感恩消防员，这两天一直看消防直升机来来回回的在我家山头盘旋救火，不但抗住了Mulholland的防线，Mandeville canyon里的房子也救下来了
风也是运气的一换，本来一直吹西风猛往我家跑，周五开始东北风了。简直大起大落
https://p.sda1.dev/21/ea6882e2c7b0a48ffc32ac7cac20bcc4/image.png
根据洛杉矶县法医部的最新死亡人数，共有 24 人死于加州野火。
https://p.sda1.dev/21/2f5c1238101e2acaa961bbc242e68a66/a339bd15ly1hxi71rkqw0j21jk20nb0p.jpg
名居守 发表于 2025-1-12 22:20
来源：驻旧金山总领事馆经济商务处 2024-07-02 03:57
2023年加州名义GDP为38621.71亿美元，在全美各州排名 ...
按米国算法，gdp越烧越高的
lDaive 发表于 2025-1-13 09:35
根据洛杉矶县法医部的最新死亡人数，共有 24 人死于加州野火。
热度早就过去了，现在简中互联网还停留咋没死啥人的印象中
—— 来自 S1Fun
牢美经典的大量失踪不算死，等报道高峰过去后再修正。。。
https://p.sda1.dev/21/ec6fb3ec6a3f417662f7a9d8a714757c/QQ截图20250113093213.png
liquer 发表于 2025-1-12 16:44
我记得之前好像有人说过护林员有时候要挖隔离带把一片区域内累积得过多可燃物“可控燃烧”掉？不知道是那种 ...
这个是真的，因为前两年加拿大一场超大型山火就是因为某女性消防员论坛的一场可控燃烧导致的
黄油indie 发表于 2025-1-12 13:32
烧了富人区一栋房子都能吹成好像整个加州都烧了一样，还有什么保险没了无家可归，好惨啊之类的作文，太搞 ...
真正的有钱人家被烧了也不会伤筋动骨，大不了换地方再买一栋
但一般家庭就麻烦了，有的被烧家庭房子还是租的，虽然房子损失不是自己的，但家当也全没了
C.W.Nimitz 发表于 2025-1-13 10:45
真正的有钱人家被烧了也不会伤筋动骨，大不了换地方再买一栋
但一般家庭就麻烦了，有的被烧家庭房子还是 ...
其实让真有钱人出来消费是好事啊
我是加州州长我定期派人去比弗利山庄放火每次烧个5%左右就开始救火
—— 来自 S1Fun
尹卡卡他真的，我哭死。
据韩联社，因被国会弹劾而暂停职务的韩国总统尹锡悦13日在脸书个人账号就美国洛杉矶山火发文，呼吁政府层面提供必要的救灾援助，避免当地韩侨遭受损失。
尹锡悦写道，美国是在韩国最艰难时期伸出援手的宝贵盟友，洛杉矶是世界上韩人韩侨最多的地区。洛杉矶灾情越来越严重，令人难过。我向遇难者表示哀悼，并向美国国民致以慰问，愿山火早日被扑灭，灾民早日重建家园。
这是尹锡悦遭国会弹劾后第二次在脸书上发文。上月29日，他曾发文哀悼济州航空空难遇难者。
这火终于要结束了。
昨天的海边火场
今天的海边火场
Pasadena离家前的Angeles山景（没有山景...
Pasadena回家后的Angeles山景
控制了就好 不过估计后面也是无视发生 好比之前夏威夷大火也是没声音
一心而用 发表于 2025-1-11 19:33
居然还有人因为大火赚了？
太看得起民主党了，这个高铁项目，黑马在位八年屁都没憋出来，懂王上来了还能干成？做梦呢
【美国联邦调查局证实吹牛老爹的豪宅在洛杉矶大火中被烧毁，所有证据都丢失了！-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/XOWumm7
真的假的？吹牛老爹真是刁光斗啊，能这么平事的
名居守 发表于 2025-1-12 22:20
来源：驻旧金山总领事馆经济商务处 2024-07-02 03:57
2023年加州名义GDP为38621.71亿美元，在全美各州排名 ...
这gdp顶一个婆罗多了
所以JPL烧到了吗？
RStocking 发表于 2025-1-13 14:30
【美国联邦调查局证实吹牛老爹的豪宅在洛杉矶大火中被烧毁，所有证据都丢失了！-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv ...
嫌疑人抓到了！是詹姆斯放的火
RStocking 发表于 2025-1-13 14:30
【美国联邦调查局证实吹牛老爹的豪宅在洛杉矶大火中被烧毁，所有证据都丢失了！-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv ...
不是，证物你不拉回去存证物室，就这么放在原地不管的吗？没有火龙烧仓，也不怕时不时进去小偷拿纪念品啊，怕不是方便各路大佬销毁证物
RStocking 发表于 2025-1-13 14:30
【美国联邦调查局证实吹牛老爹的豪宅在洛杉矶大火中被烧毁，所有证据都丢失了！-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv ...
都抓了那么多天逮捕令都出来了还能有证据放在房子里。大家不得不信了。
图穷匕见？
【一个视频回顾重庆山火8天紧急救援全过程】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1pXcieTEQ7/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=2668a37cc899361eb257721ddf2423a8
哈里斯和拜登往家里带机密文件的证据是不是也一起烧没了？
—— 来自 鹅球 v3.3.96-alpha
话说s1有没有什么洛杉矶的群，我本来打算一月开始去LA联培一年半，因为各种原因被拖到3月或者4月开始，这一烧是不是租房更难更混乱了，CSC的1900刀一个月是不是注定要喝西北风了
本帖最后由 枯风瘦雪 于 2025-1-22 16:24 编辑
好像又烧起来了
新闻原文在此
据美国加州消防局消息，21日，加州圣迭戈市燃起两处山火，近千人被紧急疏散。此外，加州河滨市又燃起一处山火。目前三处新增山火并没有完全被扑灭，暂无人员伤亡报告。美国国家气象局警告，“圣安娜风”将于当地时间周三晚上至周四早上达到高峰，加州南部大部分地区仍处于火灾风险红色警报中。(央视新闻)
洛杉矶原来还有东西可以烧啊
啊？还有续集？
—— 来自 鹅球 v3.3.96-alpha
改名烧矶算了。
现在是共和党的🔥，能一样吗
—— 来自 鹅球 v3.3.96
烧烤完拜登烧烤**
好！
怎么，还有证据没烧干净？
San Diego和洛杉矶不是一个地方
虽然LA也不是不可能再烧一波
LA已经烧出隔离带了吧