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[怀旧] 当年《星战》跟《灵魂能力》穿越的官方非正史老漫画

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发表于 2018-11-10 15:30 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

在2008年,卢卡斯影业跟南宫梦曾经搞过一次联动,尤达、达斯·维德、弑星者在《灵魂能力4》里,做为可选角色出现过。








这里先发几张星战官方设定文章里,对于星战角色与灵魂能力角色交手中,使用剑型的配图介绍











在2008年,一名星战官方漫画作者画了这个短篇系列,这系列当初曾经在星战官网跟南宫梦相关官方网站上都发过。
当然,这个漫画系列以及星战跟《灵魂能力4》联动都属于正史
















































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发表于 2018-11-10 15:57 | 显示全部楼层
棒!有没有包?
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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-10 16:28 | 显示全部楼层
Chao 发表于 2018-11-10 15:57
棒!有没有包?

没有,其实这漫画图片不大,传S1一点没缩图,我觉得没必要专门做下载 - -

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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-10 16:30 | 显示全部楼层
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沼蝇 发表于 2018-11-10 16:09
弑星者本来就不是正史人物吧

2014年重启前是正史,虽然大能乱放游戏的话,仅限光明面路线的过场动画与背景大纲部分是正史,玩家操作的游戏流程部分并不是。
比如很多玩家以为的弑星者打败皇帝剧情,旧正史历几乎完全就是皇帝在玩他……


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发表于 2018-11-10 16:43 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
其实星战的光剑不是随便削SC里任何一件武器么,这里是强行五五开了吗
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发表于 2018-11-10 20:30 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
月华刹那 发表于 2018-11-10 16:43
其实星战的光剑不是随便削SC里任何一件武器么,这里是强行五五开了吗

削不了邪剑和灵剑,这俩武器已经是玄幻级别的了……
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发表于 2018-11-10 20:59 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 M82 于 2018-11-10 21:01 编辑

经过sc6开发组的魔改,所有角色除了遇见,索妈,香华,其他角色全部加入了玄幻元素,如暴走,底力,充电宝,七星转身释放,时停,闪耀阴郁,我觉得第六代的角色跟姐弟西丝能搞。
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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-10 21:24 | 显示全部楼层
沼蝇 发表于 2018-11-10 20:25
打不过皇帝那是怎么把那群人救出来的啊

游戏里本来最后就是拖住了皇帝而不是打赢了皇帝,使得大家跑路啊

弑星者强于当时的维德,但远不如帕皇


官方小说里,弑星者与皇帝之前的所谓“交手”描述如下:





He was the first to his feet, striding across the rubble to where Darth Vader lay face-forward, gravely wounded and stripped of his armor in places. Flesh and machinery showed through the gaps. Finally, some real blood was flowing.

The apprentice stood over him with his lightsaber upraised and ready to strike. His former Master was trying to stand, feebly willing his massive bulk to move as it was supposed to. Servomotors whined and strained. When he rolled over, the apprentice froze.

Darth Vader's helmet had been ripped away by the blast. Beneath was the face of the man who had stolen and enslaved him, a pathetic, hairless thing covered in wrinkles and old scar tissue. Only the eyes showed the slightest signs of life: blue and full of pain, they stared up at him with undisguised weariness.

The Emperor appeared out of the settling smoke, glee on his face. He raised one hand as though to touch the apprentice. The apprentice felt a wave of hypnotic suggestion flow through him.

Yes! Kill him! He is weak, broken! Kill him and you can take your rightful place at my side!

The apprentice remained frozen, mesmerized by the Emperor's ghastly charisma. Why not? Wasn't this what he had considered on Raxus Prime? If he agreed to that **, he would be free of one Master and slave to another-but what was to stop him from attacking that Master in turn, one day? He would not make the same mistakes Darth Vader had.


Darth Vader-who had murdered his father, lied to and betrayed him, killed PROXY, branded Juno a traitor, and kidnapped Kota and the others. Didn't he deserve to die a thousand times over?


And power-he had become used to it in the service of his Master. When the dark side sang through him, others danced to his will. That would be hard to give up.

"No!" Kota's voice came as though from a great distance. The apprentice noted, as though viewing the world in slow motion, the Jedi Master telekinetically snatching the Emperor's lightsaber from his waist and, with a surety belying his physical blindness, using it to cut down the Imperial Guards watching the prisoners. Lunging forward, he struck next at the Emperor, who stood, apparently unarmed, with one hand still reaching out for the apprentice.

But the Emperor was never unarmed. Raising his other hand, he blasted Kota with lightning before the blow came close to falling. Sith energy crackled between them and the Jedi Master fell back, caught in the Emperor's deadly grip.

"Help him!"

Bail Organa's voice snapped the apprentice out of his trance. He shook his head, feeling the Emperor's influence sliding off him like oil. What had he been thinking? He didn't want to return to the dark side after everything he had been through. He had seen what it did, in Maris Brood, on Felucia, and in the eyes of Darth Vader. He didn't even want to kill his Master, now that he saw him humbled and at his mercy. That was where it had all started, he now realized. When Darth Vader had killed Galen's father and Galen had snatched the lightsaber from his hand, his intention had been solely to avenge his father's death. That had been what Vader had seen in him all those years ago, not just that he was strong with the Force-and that was why Galen had blotted out the person he had once been. He had taken that first step down the path of the dark side all on his own, before he had been subjected to Vader's cruel tutelage. He had to retract it now or submit to the dark side forever.

Murdering Darth Vader would accomplish nothing. Saving his friends might change the course of history.

Seen in that light, the decision was surprisingly easy.

A hail of shattered transparisteel and debris drove the Emperor back from Kota, breaking his concentration and freeing the Jedi Master from the fatal web of energy. Smoking and weak, Kota fell away and was caught by Garm Bel Iblis. The apprentice tossed them the comlink and advanced on Palpatine.

"Good," hissed the Emperor, his claw-like hands upraised between them like a weak old man fending off an attacker. Stumbling, he fell to his knees. "Yes." He looked up at the apprentice. "You were destined to destroy me. Do it! Give in to your hatred!"


The apprentice stood over him for a moment with his lightsaber upraised. Its aqua light reflected in the eyes of the galaxy's Emperor as though it was the last thing he would ever see.


With a snap, the apprentice extinguished the blade and lowered his arm.

Kota limped up behind him and put a hand on his shoulder. "That's it, boy," he said with rough pride. "He's beaten. Let it go."

The sound of engines from above distracted them both. They looked up to see the Rogue Shadow descending over the shattered dome, lights flashing on and off to attract their attention. Its repulsors dispelled the last of the smoke and sent the apprentice's tattered cape whipping around his legs.

Juno, he thought. At last, everything is going to be all right.

"You fool!" snarled the Emperor, sending another wave of Sith lightning into Kota's back. "He will never be yours."

Kota fell with his arms upraised, and the apprentice knew that it wasn't over yet. The moment of truth had arrived.

Without hesitation, he stepped between Kota and the Emperor, taking the full brunt of the Sith lightning into his own body.

The pain was incredible, searing every nerve back to its individual cells, skewering each of them on white-hot needles. He had never before felt anything like this. He wanted to recoil from the source, to curl into a ball and let unconsciousness take the pain away, but somehow he stayed standing, seeing the world through a crackling blue light, and even took a step toward the Emperor.

"Go!" he hissed at Kota. "Hurry!"


The general hesitated only for a moment. He, too, had seen a glimpse of the future, the apprentice remembered. He knew that it came down to a simple choice: him and the Rebels or the apprentice and darkness forever. Gathering up the Rebels, Kola ushered them toward the descending ship.


Another staggering, painful step and the Emperor was within the apprentice's reach. With shaking fingers, he took the old man's bony shoulders in his hands and gripped them tight. The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations. The Emperor tipped back his head and howled in lascivious pain. Darkness threatened to envelop the apprentice's mind, but he clutched to consciousness with feverish will. He had to see this through. He had to.


A squadron of stormtroopers ran into the room, led by a limping Darth Vader. They raised their blasters to gun down the Rebels as they fled up the Rogue Shadow's ramp.


"No!" the apprentice cried, dropping his defenses to strike one last time at the Imperials. Energy surged through him. He felt as though a star had blazed to life in his chest. Driven by concern for his friends rather than himself, he embraced the Force completely, utterly, and was rewarded with strength that made his efforts with the dark side look like those of a child. His nerves were on fire. Streamers of light radiated from his skin. His bones glowed like radiant lava.


He saw rather than felt the massive shock wave that consumed a large portion of what remained of the observation dome. A glowing bubble of fire tore the stormtroopers to shreds and engulfed Vader and the Emperor. Shrapnel filled the air like dust caught in the beam of the Death Star's powerful laser.


Tossed like a leaf, the Rogue Shadow fled in haste, ramp snapping shut on its precious cargo.


The apprentice felt himself leaving his body again. Or was his body leaving him this time? He felt ripped apart by the energy that had flowed through him. Every cell was in shock; every fiber shook. The fire on his face possessed no heat at all. His limbs felt as distant as the farthest arms of the galaxy. He was amazed there was enough left of him to think at all.


Weakened by the blast, the dome's supports gave way. It collapsed into the superlaser dish, triggering a series of conventional explosions. Stormtroopers converged on the site. Through the dense smoke, two figures were visible from the apprentice's rarefied perspective.


Darth Vader struggled to his feet from the rubble, even more damaged than before. He reached out for support and found only his Master, scowling.


Together, unspeaking, they searched the rubble.


When they found what they were looking for, neither of them looked any happier for it.


"He is dead," the Dark Lord intoned, gazing dispassionately at the body at their feet.


This moment, the apprentice thought. I saw this!


"Then he is now more powerful than ever." The Emperor glanced up, watching sourly as the Rogue Shadow sped away into the busy sky. "He was meant to root out the Rebels, not give them hope. His sacrifice will only inspire them."


"But now we know who they are, my Master. I will hunt them down and destroy them, as you always intended-starting with the traitor Bail Organa."


The Emperor waved him silent and turned to walk away. "Patience, Lord Vader. Far better to destroy a man's hope first. Or that of someone close to him ..."


Hope will never he destroyed, the apprentice thought. Not now. It'll survive anything else you can throw at them . . .


Darkness pressed in. He didn't fight it. Juno was safe. That was all he cared about now. He didn't need to be there to see what happened next. He could imagine well enough.


With his last thought, he whispered his own name.


Unnoticed by anyone, the Dark Lord raised a solid, black boot heel and crushed his fallen apprentice's lightsaber to dust.






那战开始玩家所谓的“打败”皇帝,帕皇几乎就是卖萌式的放水意图诱使
弑星者堕落。弑星者拒绝堕落后,不再留手的帕皇一出手,弑星者就知道自己完全不敌。
然后弑星者选择自我牺牲的方式,放弃自己生存的希望救人光明面地图炮(同时全面投入光明面力量增强)暂时拖延帕皇一会,使得大家跑路。但结果就是他被皇帝电翻,而他的地图炮没有给皇帝造成明显可见的损伤。



而官网资料也说的很明白,《原力释放》的帕皇全力出手后弑星者根本敌不过



当初官网资料库弑星者人物介绍里


As Juno rescued the Senators, Starkiller confronted the Sith Lords who had been manipulating him for years. Lightsabers clashed inside the Emperor's observation dome, but Starkiller was ultimately no match for the power of Darth Sidious.
朱诺救下议员们后,弑星者跟控制自己多年的西斯尊主再次相见。光剑在皇帝的观察室里撞击,但弑星者最终还是敌不过达斯·西迪厄斯的威力。




其实说弑星者击败过放水帕皇都是抬举弑星者
因为开始玩家操作的所谓弑星者VS帕皇那段游戏流程,小说描写是帕皇那卖萌卖的几乎连放水都算不上,纯粹就是在玩弑星者。








而游戏在重启前,能够确定属于正史的过场动画就是:
皇帝最后出手,弑星者拖住皇帝。大家借机跑路,代价是弑星者被电翻。


而且按照当时重启前属于正史的官方小说,拖住皇帝时的弑星者因为放弃自己生还的可能全力救助他人,完全投入光明面的弑星者这时比之前击败皇帝时大幅度升级了。


所以根本就不存在有些人玩游戏后,从所谓击败皇帝的游戏流程里得出的,寇塔不阻止弑星者能够杀死皇帝的情况。
寇塔阻止弑星者杀被击败的皇帝是对的



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发表于 2018-11-10 21:29 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
M82 发表于 2018-11-10 20:59
经过sc6开发组的魔改,所有角色除了遇见,索妈,香华,其他角色全部加入了玄幻元素,如暴走,底力,充电宝 ...

御剑更吊好不好,按照剧情来说御剑四代的时候跟英雄王交手后不分胜负,战斗力爆表……
索妈身体埋了邪剑碎片后其实也被强化了,至于香华也有剑作为外挂……
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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-10 21:46 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xjtxp 于 2018-11-10 21:56 编辑
沼蝇 发表于 2018-11-10 21:29
维达和帕皇差这么多?

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk3MjAyMjc2.html



虽然上面两段都是非正史的黑暗面路线剧情

大能乱放的皇帝可不像EP6那样,大部分精力分给了在操纵军队的战斗冥想……













虽然此时的维德远比EP3阿纳金要强,但旧正史里,此时达斯·维德的原力造诣,在银河帝国难入三甲。


旧正史里,皇帝手下有原力造诣更胜达斯·维德的黑暗绝地。
比如造型跟EP8里那位台球君略像的帝国影子情报部长黑洞,当然了原力造诣胜维德其实不算啥——这位黑洞大人最出名的一件事是,干出 乱一伦 强一奸 自己亲生女儿这种惊天地泣鬼神的事


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发表于 2018-11-10 22:27 | 显示全部楼层
ギナ 发表于 2018-11-10 20:30
削不了邪剑和灵剑,这俩武器已经是玄幻级别的了……

上面的漫画里御剑拿个普通日本刀就能跟达斯维达拼剑了。。。
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xjtxp 发表于 2018-11-10 21:46
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk3MjAyMjc2.html

我觉得旧正史最扯淡的地方就在于,动不动就跑出个战力超过爵爷的货来,然后又通通打不过皇帝,搞得爵爷像是走后门靠关系才上位的
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ギナ 发表于 2018-11-10 22:29
我觉得旧正史最扯淡的地方就在于,动不动就跑出个战力超过爵爷的货来,然后又通通打不过皇帝,搞得爵爷像 ...

对,这点新版的好多了,爵爷严守天花板,走哪里虐哪里,一路暴力割菜正面从来不虚

另外我也真喜欢弑星者,他的人物设计太有意思了,他就是那个如果卢克被黑武士养大的结果,官方设计这个人物时候都这么说。也许很多人因为他实力而喜欢讨厌,我却因为他的故事而喜欢,详细描写一个懵懂的西斯徒弟经历什么反过来成为绝地,洗白戏这年头多,但是性格人物上真实可信还不过于变人物的改变就难了,弑星者做到了,从头到尾还是那个他却在矛盾与质疑中走向光明

爵爷头盔没了看他尸体那个眼神更是棒啊,所谓复杂,真的复杂的眼神,太棒了

希望新正史出他啊啊啊!不过估计也得等游戏技术发展然后重制吧?也可能不会出来了……
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AlienFromEarth 发表于 2018-11-11 01:20
对,这点新版的好多了,爵爷严守天花板,走哪里虐哪里,一路暴力割菜正面从来不虚

另外我也真喜欢弑星者 ...

可惜新正史还是被EP8给毁了,煞笔编剧快点去死
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ギナ 发表于 2018-11-11 01:24
可惜新正史还是被EP8给毁了,煞笔编剧快点去死

迪士尼玛丽苏公主和美式政治正确太可怕了
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发表于 2018-11-11 13:53 | 显示全部楼层
怎么看这4的截图好像比6还舒服点,,
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AlienFromEarth 发表于 2018-11-11 01:20:59
对,这点新版的好多了,爵爷严守天花板,走哪里虐哪里,一路暴力割菜正面从来不虚

另外我也真喜欢弑星者 ...
我也挺喜欢弑星者的,剧情写的的确很有意思,黑暗结局的后续关卡娱乐度满点啊

传说在收购卢卡斯之前,大波乱放3已经立项,剧情是爵爷和弑星者被丢在未知星球不得不联手合作的双人开放世界游戏……

  -- 来自 能手机投票的 Stage1官方 iOS客户端
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真实之影 发表于 2018-11-12 11:11
我也挺喜欢弑星者的,剧情写的的确很有意思,黑暗结局的后续关卡娱乐度满点啊

传说在收购卢卡斯之前,大波 ...

如果真的做出来太有意思了!详细描写一对奇怪西斯师徒的故事,可惜啊……
黑暗剧情结局的确也不错,细节都很多波折,1代黑暗后传那个形象太帅了,是能让人觉得的确是黑武士徒弟的感觉


收购也毁了1377还是啥来着,就是那个当个普通非绝地去神秘海域式的游戏
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