ekdc11 发表于 2020-12-9 05:18

[更新]CentOS 8 将在 2021 年停止支持,系列转移到 CentOS Stream

本帖最后由 ekdc11 于 2023-7-12 05:02 编辑

tl;dr CentOS 7 生命周期保持不变,CentOS 8 明年停止支持,重心转移到 CentOS Stream。并且提示,CentOS Stream 不适合 production environment。

Red Hat 躲过 GPL 方式就是收编 CentOS,然后把它变成 RHEL 的 upstream (Fedora > CentOS Stream > RHEL > Oracle Linux)。

The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream continues after that date, serving as the upstream (development) branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in CentOS Linux 7, and we’ll continue to produce that version through the remainder of the RHEL 7 life cycle.

CentOS Stream will also be the centerpiece of a major shift in collaboration among the CentOS Special Interest Groups (SIGs). This ensures SIGs are developing and testing against what becomes the next version of RHEL. This also provides SIGs a clear single goal, rather than having to build and test for two releases. It gives the CentOS contributor community a great deal of influence in the future of RHEL. And it removes confusion around what “CentOS” means in the Linux distribution ecosystem.

When CentOS Linux 8 (the rebuild of RHEL8) ends, your best option will be to migrate to CentOS Stream 8, which is a small delta from CentOS Linux 8, and has regular updates like traditional CentOS Linux releases. If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you to contact Red Hat about options.

We have an FAQ to help with your information and planning needs, as you figure out how this shift of project focus might affect you.
UPDATE: 2020-12-15
我们熟知的 CentOS Linux 发行版可能死掉了,上周 Red Hat 出人意料的宣布其企业发行版的免费社区版本 CentOS Linux 将转变成一个滚动发行版 CentOS Stream,已发布的 CentOS 8 和 CentOS 7 将在明年和 2024 年终止支持。这一消息震惊了包括 CentOS 项目联合创始人在内的无数人。但基于 RHEL 的免费发行版并不只有 CentOS,你可以使用其他替代,其中包括甲骨文的 Oracle Linux;CloudLinux OS 项目维护者刚刚宣布将在明年一季度发布 CentOS 的免费替代;面向学术界的 Springdale Linux;CentOS 联合创始人 Greg Kurtzer 在听到这一震惊消息后宣布的新发行版 Rocky Linux,名字是为了纪念另一位联合创始人 Rocky McGough;惠普企业维护的发行版 ClearOS。      
UPDATE: 2021-01-21
Redhat 自 2021年2月起 给个人开发者16台设备的 RHEL 许可。
We’re addressing this by expanding the terms of the Red Hat Developer program so that the Individual Developer subscription for RHEL can be used in production for up to 16 systems. That’s exactly what it sounds like: for small production use cases, this is no-cost, self-supported RHEL.
UPDATE: 2021-06-21
Rocky Linux 8.4 GA版本发布 https://rockylinux.org/de/news/rocky-linux-8-4-ga-release/
Sufficient testing has been performed such that we have confidence in its stability for production systems. Free community support is available through the Rocky Linux Mattermost, IRC, and forums. Paid commercial support is currently available through CIQ.
UPDATE: 2023-06-25
RHEL 的 Source Code 只有订阅才能获得 https://www.phoronix.com/news/Red-Hat-CentOS-Stream-Sources
此举可能影响 AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux 等一系列发行版。
"As the CentOS Stream community grows and the enterprise software world tackles new dynamics, we want to sharpen our focus on CentOS Stream as the backbone of enterprise Linux innovation. We are continuing our investment in and increasing our commitment to CentOS Stream. CentOS Stream will now be the sole repository for public RHEL-related source code releases. For Red Hat customers and partners, source code will remain available via the Red Hat Customer Portal.

To be clear, this change does not signify any changes to the CentOS Project, CentOS Stream or source availability for CentOS Stream or CentOS SIGs."
UPDATE: 2023-07-11
SUSE 计划花费1千万美元 fork RHEL: At SUSE We Make Choice Happen

At SUSE We Make Choice Happen | SUSE Communities
https://www.suse.com/c/at-suse-we-make-choice-happen/

SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL with a $10+ Million Investment | SUSE
https://www.suse.com/news/SUSE-P ... GZJgdmPbIlhG3pGZHEw


CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream – Blog.CentOS.org
https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2020-December/048208.html

CentOS Stream: Building an innovative future for enterprise Linux
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux

CentOS 8 Ending Next Year To Focus Shift On CentOS Stream - Slashdot
https://linux.slashdot.org/story/20/12/08/2010236/centos-8-ending-next-year-to-focus-shift-on-centos-stream?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29

CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream | Hacker News
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25345428

CentOS is dead, long live CentOS Stream
https://lwn.net/Articles/839257/

End of Lifetime (EOL) Dates
https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product

CentOS 项目开发重点将转向 CentOS Stream - V2EX
https://v2ex.com/t/733537

奇客Solidot | CentOS Linux 的替代
https://www.solidot.org/story?sid=66365

New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to access RHEL
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/n ... er-ways-access-rhel

A Comprehensive Analysis of the GPL Issues With the Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) Business Model - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2023/jun/23/rhel-gpl-analysis/



利维坦与霍布斯 发表于 2020-12-9 05:47

把生意还给redhat的意思?

ekdc11 发表于 2020-12-9 05:59

Red Hat / IBM 这个时间选择不够厚道(6刚结束,8才支持1年),终身黑历史。

adrftgyh 发表于 2020-12-9 11:30

也就是说部署8不如部署7咯??

citrus 发表于 2020-12-9 13:35

部署了几台stream的表示这玩意bug太多,完全没法弄,要不是某些rh系特有的工具谁tm想用啊,简直是linux界的windows

braverbt 发表于 2020-12-9 14:04

其实也可以理解,IBM收购红帽后对业绩不满意.
加上总体业界普遍转收费制订阅制,出现这种事情也没什么奇怪的(心里倒是想说真不厚道,小白鼠反哺企业版).
硬要说的话RHEL本体价格也不是很贵,卫星源授权和集中管理才是大头.

至于Centos7 . Maintenance Update到2024年一月30号,还有一些时间~

naiveyan 发表于 2020-12-9 14:08

那centos stream和fedora哪个更稳定呢?
ubuntu lts都能上生产,总不至于比ubuntu lts还不稳吧。

lvcha 发表于 2020-12-9 15:00

黑兽 发表于 2020-12-9 15:21

ekdc11 发表于 2020-12-9 15:24

本帖最后由 ekdc11 于 2020-12-10 09:18 编辑

naiveyan 发表于 2020-12-9 14:08
那centos stream和fedora哪个更稳定呢?
ubuntu lts都能上生产,总不至于比ubuntu lts还不稳吧。 ...
CentOS Stream 是一直滚的啊,每次部署 (deploy) 是可能有不同结果的。而且 Stream 基本就是 RHEL 8.x beta,一直会有新功能进来。原帖 FAQ 也提到了,Stream 不适合生产 (production environment)。

AstroProfundis 发表于 2020-12-9 18:21

Make Debian Great Again!

beta.h 发表于 2020-12-9 19:32

Evilgurren 发表于 2020-12-10 08:49

一直在7.4还没用过8怎么就不支持了

处男鉴黄师 发表于 2020-12-10 09:25

citrus 发表于 2020-12-10 10:11

处男鉴黄师 发表于 2020-12-10 09:25
所以为什么不用ubuntu?我寻思着服务器版的ubuntu也不差啊

Debian系在企业IT这一块很多RH系提供的工具没有

再加上以前支持10年,很多正经的工控之类的系统是真要跑十年甚至更久不做大版本升级的

DeepFishing 发表于 2020-12-10 10:58

所以还不如搞搞Ubuntu了

—— 来自 Sony H8296, Android 10上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.4.3

nanonya2 发表于 2020-12-10 13:01

Scientific Linux是时候复活了

nanonya2 发表于 2020-12-10 13:06

https://i.loli.net/2020/12/10/w7NOJjoX1WIb8HL.jpg

lhw369 发表于 2020-12-10 18:59

nanonya2 发表于 2020-12-10 13:06


再fork一个就好了啊

—— 来自 HUAWEI LIO-AN00, Android 10上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.4.3

AirstripOne 发表于 2020-12-11 13:19

这其实是非常合理的行为,CentOS 现在主要的用户是开发者,他们用 CentOS 是为了避免在开发测试环境也要应对 RHEL 繁琐的许可证要求(你不能要求一个每一个上游开源项目的开发者都去买 RHEL 许可证)。对他们来说,CentOS 晚于 RHEL 半年到一年才发布,是完全没法跟上实际需求的,所以他们希望有个跟上 RHEL 开发节奏,甚至作为 RHEL 上游的发行版来做开发。顺便一提,RHEL 在大部分的生命周期都是没有上游的。

更何况,如果 CentOS 只是单纯编译 RHEL 源码,一点变动的都不能做的话,也完全称不上一个社区,将其移往 RHEL 上游可以给社区开发者更多的参与,是双赢(指红帽子赢两次)。

至于只是单纯把 CentOS 当作免费 RHEL 的人,我只能说,Red Hat 接手 CentOS 第一天起就声明了“红帽通过在CentOS社区中扮演催化剂的角色,将使其能够加速为客户和合作伙伴开发企业级订阅解决方案”。在 Red Hat 看来,CentOS 一直都不过是“RHEL 的开发工具”。

AirstripOne 发表于 2020-12-11 13:21

nanonya2 发表于 2020-12-10 13:01
Scientific Linux是时候复活了

那你不如用 Oracle Linux。

nanonya2 发表于 2020-12-11 19:26

原CentOS发起者已经宣布了新的项目,Rocky Linux

https://github.com/rocky-linux/rocky
页: [1]
查看完整版本: [更新]CentOS 8 将在 2021 年停止支持,系列转移到 CentOS Stream