草，涨价就不香了
—— 来自 Xiaomi MIX, Android 8.0.0上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.2.0.1
看来苹果今年不上APU了
和牙膏同价位了，不交朋友
MD，农企翻身那么多年，牙膏厂牙膏那么多年，怎么我E3一换9900k撑5年的时候居然给我玩这出？
这些谁在乎？尤其是价格这点，火鸡的说法是价格也打爆牙膏只有降价一条路，你觉得项目经理会不知道组件多少钱吗
AMD说了9750H和4800H对位，你们都不看PPT的🐴，基本意思就是4800H大概和9750H一个价，可能还便宜一点，不会和9980H这种八核非平民对位的
—— 来自 Xiaomi MI 5s Plus, Android 8.0.0上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.2.0.1
华为沸腾ptsd了，又看见漫山遍野按摩店沸腾、、、、、、、、
我就说待机功耗还是赶不上Intel的，
一票超极本还是iu方便
白头盔 发表于 2020-1-13 10:07
我就说待机功耗还是赶不上Intel的，
一票超极本还是iu方便
超极本Zen2-AU面对的是TGL-U，Zen+AU面对的IceLake-U，根本不用多考虑、、、、、、
qzy741147 发表于 2020-1-13 10:16
我从3960x换到9920x这时间点也和你差不多
反正都买了，只能安慰自己现在CPU过剩了。不过现在我真看不懂两家CPU啥战况了。天梯图也没找到最新的
whatd 发表于 2020-1-13 09:00
MD，农企翻身那么多年，牙膏厂牙膏那么多年，怎么我E3一换9900k撑5年的时候居然给我玩这出？ ...
9900K超个5.3还不是美滋滋
CyanCloverFern 发表于 2020-1-13 10:08
超极本Zen2-AU面对的是TGL-U，Zen+AU面对的IceLake-U，根本不用多考虑、、、、、、 ...
tiger lake Q3能上市就谢天谢地了
qzy741147 发表于 2020-1-13 10:16
我从3960x换到9920x这时间点也和你差不多
可以接着换3960X（TR），毅种循环
melvin95 发表于 2020-1-13 11:12
稿是牙膏和水果丢给他念的，大意也是差不多，就是不用想看到AMD U的macbook ...
这是什么弱智思路，就这水平还敢谈控评，你谁啊？
来看实锤，mac os驱动源码怎么写
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本帖最后由 albertfu 于 2020-1-13 16:18 编辑
关于zen2 APU价格是否交朋友的：
搭载英特尔处理器的 14 英寸 Yoga Slim 7 和 15 英寸 Yoga Slim 7 的起步售价为 1209.99 美元（折合约 8392 元人民币），搭载 AMD 处理器的 14 英寸起步售价则为 849.99 美元（折合约 5895 元人民币）
短期内还是要比牙膏便宜不少，差个260刀 360刀还行吧
后排提醒楼主-26鹅
—— 来自 OnePlus GM1910, Android 10上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.2.0.1
melvin95 发表于 2020-1-13 11:54
谁的思路不知道，给的稿是这样的，去怼牙膏水果啊
给的稿？？
牙膏30亿刀朋友费，塞钱也要塞点影响力大的啊，比如LTT，省得他再做黑I视频（最近实在是有点多
melvin95 发表于 2020-1-13 12:03
泥潭这种看到人家开始加口鹅就跟风的羊群思维，随便啦
真要寻求认同把这发去r/intel就千多个karma了
好奇点开了r/intel，看看是什么样的echo chamber这么好骗karma的
结果除了pinned by moderator的俩贴，hot贴第一：
Intel is really going towards disaster
So, kind of spend my weekend looking in to Intel roadmap for our datacentar operations and business projection for next 2-4 years. (You kind of have to have some plan what you plan to buy every 6-8 months to stay in business).
And it's just so fucking bad it's just FUBAR for Intel. Like right now, we have 99% Intel servers in production, and even if ignore all the security problems and loss of performance we had (including our clients directly) there is really nothing to look forward to for Intel. In 20 years in business, I never seen situation like this. Intel looks like blind elephant with no idea where is it and trying to poke his way out of it.
My company already have order for new EPYC servers and seems we have no option but to just buy AMD from now on.
I was going over old articles on Anandtech (Link bellow) and Ice Lake Xeon was suppose to be out 2018 / 2019 - and we are now in 2020. And while this seems like "just" 2 years miss, Ice Lake Xeon was suppose to be up to 38 Cores & max 230W TDP, now seems to be it's 270W TDP and more then 2-3 years late.
In meantime, this year we are also suppose to get Cooper Lake (in Q2) that is still on 14nm few months before we get Ice Lake (in Q3), that we should be able to switch since Cooper Lake and Ice Lake use same socket (Socket P+ LGA4189-4 and LGA4189-5 Sockets).
I am not even sure what is the point of Cooper Lake if you plan to launch Ice Lake just next quarter after unless they are in fucking panic mode or they have no fucking idea what they doing, or even worst not sure if Ice Lake will be even out on Q3 2020.
Also just for fun, Cooper Lake is still PCIe 3.0 - so you can feel like idiot when you buy this for business.
I hate using just one company CPU's - using just Intel fucked us in the ass big time (goes for everyone else really), and now I can see future where AMD will have even 80% server market share vs 20% Intel.
I just cant see near / medium future where Intel can recover, since in 2020 we will get AMD Milan EPYC processors that will be coming out in summer (kind of Rome in 2019) and I dont see how Intel can catch up. Like even if they have same performance with AMD server cpu's why would anyone buy them to get fucked again like we did in last 10 years (Security issues was so bad it's horror even to talk about it - just performance loss alone was super super bad).
I am also not sure if Intel can leap over TSMC production process to get edge over AMD like before, and even worst, TSMC seems to look like riding the rocket, every new process comes out faster and faster. This year alone they will already produce new CPU's for Apple on 5nm - and TSMC roadmap looks something out of horror movie for Intel. TSMC plan is N5 in 2020 - N5P in 2021 and N3 in 2022, while Intel still plan to sell 14nm Xeon cpu's in summer 2020.
I am not sure how this will reflect on mobile + desktop market as well (I have Intel laptops and just built my self for fun desktop based on AMD 3950x) - but datacentar / server market will be massacre.