华为有什么自研架构?
这你不能问我了
想找图找不到,好像是在大眼上看到的 华为不是有永久授权吗?大不了以后走魔改路线呗 Radeon 发表于 2019-5-22 19:56
华为有什么自研架构?
https://bbs.saraba1st.com/2b/thread-1833508-1-1.html
结果是在泥潭看到的 已经在研究的985估计不受影响
这是个好时候,如果是970时代就难受了
未来MATE系列没有新的强力SOC用了
逼乎那个匿名的太假了...
这个暂时还没啥影响,等到需要新架构的时候估计已经和解了 太惨了。。
讲真,我不喜欢华为,但更不愿意看到华为是这样子倒下的
只剩下台积电是唯一的希望了 GPU怎么办 按理说990乃至1000都已经拿到授权才对。
—— 来自 HUAWEI EVR-AL00, Android 9上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.1.2 嚼GTX9的二手翔不如看看BBC原文:
UK-based chip designer ARM has told staff it must suspend business with Huawei, according to internal documents obtained by the BBC.
ARM instructed employees to halt "all active contracts, support entitlements, and any pending engagements” with Huawei and its subsidiaries to comply with a recent US trade clampdown.
ARM's designs form the basis of most mobile device processors worldwide.
In a company memo, it said its designs contained “US origin technology”.
As a consequence, it believes it is affected by the Trump administration's ban.
One analyst described the move, if it became long-term, as an “insurmountable” blow to Huawei’s business.
He said it would greatly affect the firm's ability to develop its own chips, many of which are currently built with ARM’s underlying technology, for which it pays a licence.
Cambridge-headquartered ARM had been described as the UK's largest tech firm until its takeover by a Japanese fund. It employs 6,000 workers and lists eight offices in the US.
In a statement it said it was "complying with all of the latest regulations set forth by the US government”, but declined to comment further.
Huawei has issued a brief statement of its own.
"We value our close relationships with our partners, but recognise the pressure some of them are under, as a result of politically motivated decisions," it said.
"We are confident this regrettable situation can be resolved and our priority remains to continue to deliver world-class technology and products to our customers around the world."
According to one memo, ARM staff were instructed to suspend all interactions with Huawei and its subsidiaries.
It advised staff to send a note informing Huawei (or related) employees that due to an “unfortunate situation”, they were not allowed to “provide support, delivery technology (whether software, code, or other updates), engage in technical discussions, or otherwise discuss technical matters with Huawei, HiSilicon or any of the other named entities”.
ARM staff that come into contact with employees at industry events must “politely decline and stop” any conversations about the business, the guidance said - stressing that individuals could be held personally liable for breaking the trade rules.
The ban also appeared to apply to ARM China, the China-based company in which ARM Holdings owns a 49% stake. It was set up as a joint venture with a Chinese investment consortium last year in order to enable ARM to develop, sell and offer support for its products in the region.
Huawei told reporters on Tuesday that its “plan B” for software would be to develop its own operating system, something it has already been working on for some time. However, it will be significantly more difficult for the firm to source home-grown components of sufficient quality.
Huawei currently sources some of its chips from HiSilicon, which it owns. However, while produced in China, HiSilicon’s chips are built using underlying technology created by ARM.
While HiSilicon and Huawei are free to carry on using and manufacturing existing chips, the ban would mean the company could no longer turn to ARM for assistance in developing components for devices in future.
HiSilicon's upcoming processor, Kirin 985, is due be used in Huawei devices later this year. According to a source at ARM, it is not expected to be affected by the ban. However, the next iteration of the chip has not yet been completed - and is likely to need to be rebuilt from scratch, the source said. 有没有大佬来解释一下,为什么一家位于英国的日本全资子公司会听美国商务部的令。。。 本帖最后由 BRRM 于 2019-5-22 20:53 编辑
咲月露娜 发表于 2019-5-22 20:46
有没有大佬来解释一下,为什么一家位于英国的日本全资子公司会听美国商务部的令。。。 ...
美国的拳头硬,所以他的国内法就管得广,你不服从就办你,就这么简单。如果ARM符合美国出口管制的条件的话,那么就有可能会被管到。归根到底,还是骨气的问题,你有骨气就可以不鸟他。 melvin117 发表于 2019-5-22 20:23
比小AA下一代显卡架构有戏
今年的已经研发完毕了,华为还有一年半的时间给出新架构,然而最令人担心的不是ARM而是台积电 arm不是专门在中国开了个子公司,专门处理授权问题吗
—— 来自 HUAWEI ELE-AL00, Android 9上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.1.2 早已看穿一切 发表于 2019-5-22 21:39
照这个趋势,接下来东瀛进口威力巨大之imx600瑟毛丝主炮估计也难以为继,趁主力二舰尚有优势必须尽快制定方 ...
三星大法还没表态,三星的屏幕倒是可以找京东方,大法的的IMX600是联合开发,应该不会那么容易说不给就不给 行吧,这次是真的凉了
-- 来自 有消息提醒的 Stage1官方 iOS客户端 586的升600,低端的用OV? 早已看穿一切 发表于 2019-5-22 22:00
就算600尚可供应,586和其它怎么办,国内有能顶上的?
imx销售大头都是 中国,光ban华为没啥意义,而且imx系列没啥美国人技术。
其实真的要搞就把日系一票单功能芯片全ban华为,各种电源管理音频处理这些的,虽然技术力不强,但是一家公司要重新拉一条全新的供应产业链出来最少也要3 5年,没啥政策支持可能10年都搞不全。 RISCV大机遇,X教授怕是要笑醒 菊花有arm v8的永久授权,跟高通一样魔改就完事了 真田丸 发表于 2019-5-22 23:02
日本已经禁售p30了,不借机咬一口就不算爸爸的狗
p30 lite
不过无所谓啦 本帖最后由 卡爹 于 2019-5-23 08:16 编辑
咲月露娜 发表于 2019-5-22 20:46
有没有大佬来解释一下,为什么一家位于英国的日本全资子公司会听美国商务部的令。。。 ...
美帝搞了个长臂管辖
说白了就是美帝拳头大,所以美国国内法律适用于全世界
你以为世界警察这个名字只是叫叫吗
—— 来自 vivo NEX, Android 9上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.1.2
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