mimighost 发表于 2019-4-5 07:53

[火上浇油]Epic声称因担心中国员工安全所以在中国禁售

英文原文,因为可能敏感,就不翻译了

https://www.abacusnews.com/digital-life/epic-games-store-blocks-china-protect-employees-country/article/3003534

Fortnite has made Epic Games one of the hottest gaming companies around. But that popularity doesn’t extend to China.

Epic Games recently said it refuses to sell games in China because it fears for the safety of its employees in the country, but the explanation failed to satisfy Chinese gamers.

They’ve become increasingly frustrated with Epic after it released multiple highly-anticipated games as platform exclusives on the Epic Games Store -- a platform inaccessible from within the country. It’s in sharp contrast with rival Steam, which isn’t officially available in China but is readily accessible to gamers, giving them access to plenty of games they can’t otherwise play.

But the head of Epic Games Store said the move is not out of maliciousness, but one made out of concern for the safety of Epic’s employees in Shanghai.

Steve Allison told VentureBeat that the company doesn’t feel safe selling games to Chinese gamers because local laws prohibit foreign developers from directly selling or operating online games in China.

Allison also alluded to the market incumbent Steam. The platform owned by Valve Corporation has 30 million users in China, but Steam might be operating in a legal gray area by selling games to its users there.

“The way our competitor operates offshore is not legal in China, and they don’t have an office in China,” Allison said. “We have employees there, so we are very sensitive to what is legal and what is not — more for the benefit and safety of our staff. We just don’t want to take any risks that can put them in any legal fire.“

While the explanation sounds reasonable, many Chinese gamers didn’t think it was sufficient. Some gamers have suggested Epic’s one-sided block is excessive given major competitors including Valve, Ubisoft, Electronic Arts and CD Projekt all have digital stores available to Chinese users.

“Other game distribution channels didn’t just flat out refuse to provide any service to Chinese gamers,” one commenter said. (It’s worth noting, however, that unsanctioned, offshore platforms like EA’s Origin have slow downloading speeds in China.)

Chinese gamers were infuriated when Metro: Exodus became an Epic Games Store exclusive, leaving them with no legal means of acquiring the game. (Picture: 4A Games)
This raises the question: If other gaming companies are already selling games to China despite their questionable status, what does Epic have to lose?

It’s possible that Epic may not want to threaten other business interests the company has in China. The company’s Unreal Engine powers many up-and-coming Chinese games. Its Shanghai office routinely goes to trade shows and hires talent specifically to promote the Unreal Engine.

Some gamers have even suggested that Epic doesn’t want to compete with the online game store WeGame because the platform’s owner Tencent also owns 40% of Epic Games.

“Well, the son doesn’t want to eat his daddy’s cake,” one commeter wrote.


An online entertainment giant in China, Tencent operates the hugely popular all-purpose app WeChat -- and the hit game Arena of Valor. It also owns the companies behind Clash of Clans and League of Legends.

​​​​​​So can only homegrown companies like Tencent legally sell games in China? Perhaps not. Some Chinese gamers argue that they have the right to purchase games from Steam as a foreign entertainment service under the terms of China’s agreement with the World Trade Organization.

While some Chinese gamers feel disrespected that Epic doesn’t want to rely on legally murky terms to serve their market, others remain optimistic that Epic Games is still interested in entering China in a manner with fewer legal complications.

“They might be thinking of a legitimate way to enter China,” said Zhe Li of Tianjin-based game developer Dotoyou Games. “After all, it’s a company under Tencent.”

He added, “If you try to muscle your way into China, you risk being blocked by the Chinese government.”



畜男不是人 发表于 2019-4-5 07:54

N天前已经口诛笔伐过一波了

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liaoyaaa 发表于 2019-4-5 08:43

光宗薫 发表于 2019-4-5 08:55

安全?顶多就是墙了,还能抓人不成?
不来就不来,煞笔戏精还自己在那演上了,真心欠骂

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mimighost 发表于 2019-4-5 08:56

光宗薫 发表于 2019-4-5 08:55
安全?顶多就是墙了,还能抓人不成?
不来就不来,煞笔戏精还自己在那演上了,真心欠骂


给自己加了太多戏

直接说不想和干爹竞争不就得了,非要说这边要抓人。。。呵呵

不科学的莫德 发表于 2019-4-5 09:04

我理解得,别人只是不想点破

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人类岁f 发表于 2019-4-5 09:05

Ravio 发表于 2019-4-5 09:47

育碧ea光荣gameloft都多少年了,就他戏多

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SuThoth 发表于 2019-4-5 09:51

半江瑟瑟半江红 发表于 2019-4-5 09:51

不科学的莫德 发表于 2019-4-5 09:04
我理解得,别人只是不想点破

-- 来自 能搜索的 Stage1官方 Android客户端

那么育碧在国内的工作室被端了吗?

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DEKU 发表于 2019-4-5 09:56

估计育碧上海里面都是土豆在上班吧

不必担心“安全”

wzz1331 发表于 2019-4-5 10:02

有点追求 发表于 2019-4-5 10:14

epic上海的员工不出来表达一下感激之情吗,你看总部这么担心你的安全

秋开 发表于 2019-4-5 10:19

不过在欧美难保不会有人被他忽悠,毕竟看西方好多主流媒体也在吹风...用心真的险恶,对这平台现在真的是厌恶了。

pyu97987 发表于 2019-4-5 10:25

robertjiong 发表于 2019-4-5 10:25

JimmyJoker 发表于 2019-4-5 10:31

27 Mar
这不是老新闻吗

人类岁f 发表于 2019-4-5 10:32

Joccy 发表于 2019-4-5 10:32

Gaa 发表于 2019-4-5 10:34

本帖最后由 Gaa 于 2019-4-5 10:36 编辑

好傻逼的言论(请问可以将这份文章转到steamcn吗?)

哈迪斯兜帽 发表于 2019-4-5 10:36

本帖最后由 哈迪斯兜帽 于 2019-4-5 10:38 编辑

为什么被抓
spyware大肆横行损害中国声誉?

Auver 发表于 2019-4-5 10:47

kuglv 发表于 2019-4-5 10:51

我觉得现在可以让他们注意安全了,小心出门被打

人类岁f 发表于 2019-4-5 10:52

塔奇克马 发表于 2019-4-5 10:53

既然这公司政治光谱是这样,能不能搞一搞他的投资商腾讯?

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不科学的莫德 发表于 2019-4-5 10:53

半江瑟瑟半江红 发表于 2019-4-5 09:51
那么育碧在国内的工作室被端了吗?

—— 来自 HUAWEI LYA-AL10, Android 9上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.1.2 ...

不是被不被端的问题,是其他麻烦的事

半江瑟瑟半江红 发表于 2019-4-5 10:58

不科学的莫德 发表于 2019-4-5 10:53
不是被不被端的问题,是其他麻烦的事

哪些事你来讲讲,育碧商城有国区,育碧有哪个员工被政府抓了?

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longlivedick 发表于 2019-4-5 10:59

https://bbs.saraba1st.com/2b/thread-1819650-1-1.html

人类岁f 发表于 2019-4-5 10:59

Epsilonhomu 发表于 2019-4-5 11:01

epic不说话会死吗

不科学的莫德 发表于 2019-4-5 11:05

本帖最后由 不科学的莫德 于 2019-4-5 11:07 编辑

半江瑟瑟半江红 发表于 2019-4-5 10:58
哪些事你来讲讲,育碧商城有国区,育碧有哪个员工被政府抓了?

—— 来自 HUAWEI LYA-AL10, Android 9上 ...
怎么一提就非要说到最严重的“抓人”呢?。是运营的时候的麻烦事,各种规章和法律都很模糊,还有就是灰色的地带,人家怕麻烦,没精力,直接就不搞了,就这么简单。不仅是游戏业,其他那些跨国公司都有自己的X部门处理这些问题,都需要成本。有时你投入了之后找错了人,一样打水漂,这种不确定性让人觉得有风险。不同的公司各自核算和做出自己的决策,是他们自己的自由。

trentswd 发表于 2019-4-5 11:10

不科学的莫德 发表于 2019-4-5 11:05
怎么一提就非要说到最严重的“抓人”呢?。是运营的时候的麻烦事,各种规章和法律都很模糊,还有就是灰色 ...

不搞不一定要锁区啊

举个例子碧蓝幻想,日本页游
服务器在日本,游戏有英语选项
但是客服等一切支持都只支持日语

按照这个逻辑该锁日本之外的ip了
趴在地上想想还真有不少游戏这么干

人类岁f 发表于 2019-4-5 11:12

半江瑟瑟半江红 发表于 2019-4-5 11:12

不科学的莫德 发表于 2019-4-5 11:05
怎么一提就非要说到最严重的“抓人”呢?。是运营的时候的麻烦事,各种规章和法律都很模糊,还有就是灰色 ...

你这话好像阀门育碧EA微软在国区没商店一样

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astrayveller 发表于 2019-4-5 11:12

育碧国内有育碧上海和育碧成都
你看playU商城停过没?

夜光铃 发表于 2019-4-5 11:12

哪怕他这么踩你们,还是有人会去舔他

不科学的莫德 发表于 2019-4-5 11:14

trentswd 发表于 2019-4-5 11:10
不搞不一定要锁区啊

举个例子碧蓝幻想,日本页游
不同的公司不同的考虑,假如你有15%的几率会导致亏损和不好的后果,A公司觉得可以做,B公司的决策层认为保守最好,于是就完全不下注,就这么简单。

然后还有一些内部原因,是我们不知道的


让他公开所有的考虑那是不可能的,PR对外面就会说一些比较模糊的理由,什么员工安全之类的。

moyc 发表于 2019-4-5 11:17

人类岁f 发表于 2019-04-05 11:12:05
别扯了,有tx作粑粑还不知道国内法律怎么玩儿?
epic不是不懂国内怎么玩儿,而是太懂国内怎么玩儿了,这 ...您还是别了,腾讯要真懂国内法律怎么玩wegame这玩意恐怕根本不会立项了
尤其是在2018年这个节骨眼上推wegame可以算是一个天大的笑话了

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唯一指定用户名 发表于 2019-4-5 11:19

有没有人转去nga 刚看到有个版主说不要对epic平台转进恶意态度

发自我的iPad via Saralin 2.1.5

坦克 发表于 2019-4-5 11:20

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